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hughee99

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24. You can't even discuss it? Really?

Sun Aug 31, 2014, 06:31 PM

Aug 2014

There's more than 50 threads over the last few months discussing such things.

Such threads usually attract the "what about violence against men" posters, and those posts often get this response, "this thread isn't about that, it's about the specific issue of violence against women". Absolutely fair enough, and kudos to those posters who work to keep the thread "on topic". I won't deny that there are those looking to disrupt here or those just looking to stir some shit up.

This is a thread that makes a statement that seemingly no one should have an issue with, and under other circumstances, may have been replied to with a series of simple "agreed n/t" responses. You don't like when someone comes into a thread about one topic and tries to expand the scope to take issue with the OP? Well, you just did that here.

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Fact: Man on Woman, Woman on Man, any combination, ALL are reprehensible Forms of Domestic Violence. [View all] NYC_SKP Aug 2014 OP

That is actually an opinion. ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #1

Violence against a man, a woman, a Latino, an Asian... NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #2

I am not suggestion one form of domestic violence is worse than another form. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #50

Why is that an opinion? Rex Aug 2014 #8

Here it is: salib Aug 2014 #18

I didn't ask for your opinion, why is 'all domestic violence is bad" not a fact? Rex Aug 2014 #21

Because human life and happiness has no inherent value. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #46

So how do you account for facts? They just don't exist? Rex Sep 2014 #49

I currently believe science is the best tool we have to determine facts. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #51

So if I stomp on your toe and laugh about it, you cannot get mad at me? Rex Sep 2014 #52

I am able to get mad, but my anger would be an added element to the situation. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #56

I was wondering why you are so unattached to the human factor. Rex Sep 2014 #58

I understand what you're saying, and I can relate to it. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #60

Well I believe we create good and evil, like we do anything else and it can be measured Rex Sep 2014 #61

It's a fact. Hemmingway Aug 2014 #11

A rather Biased Opinion - but an opinion none the less FreakinDJ Aug 2014 #34

I believe domestic violence is a term to describe ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #47

as if posting against the mistreatment of women somehow implies support for mistreatment of men? CreekDog Aug 2014 #39

I wrote, or thought, nothing of the sort. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #48

The sad part is -- Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #3

actually it doesn't have to be said CreekDog Aug 2014 #40

Nobody is arguing that all domestic violence isn't wrong. CTyankee Aug 2014 #4

Damn, women can't even point out the overwhelming numbers of boston bean Aug 2014 #9

It's a typical straw man argument... CTyankee Aug 2014 #10

That people are bad if they focus on scourge that is done to women. boston bean Aug 2014 #12

It reflects poorly on the person making that argument... CTyankee Aug 2014 #13

I think that the fact that almost 90% of female murder victims of Domestic Violence boston bean Aug 2014 #14

The statistics speak for themselves. CTyankee Aug 2014 #15

Agreed. boston bean Aug 2014 #16

Damn, women can't even point out the overwhelming numbers of The CCC Aug 2014 #22

Really 3x as many women are killing their male partners in fits of raging Domestic Violence? boston bean Aug 2014 #23

Here's a good example of an MRA talking point on DU. KitSileya Aug 2014 #45

You can't even discuss it? Really? hughee99 Aug 2014 #24

I absolutely do not have an issue with this thread. If you are looking for someone boston bean Aug 2014 #26

This all reads like two people dragging an argument from one thread into a new thread. n/t hughee99 Aug 2014 #28

now you're getting it. That is what the OP did. boston bean Aug 2014 #29

Was the OP told in the other thread that their statements were "off topic"? n/t hughee99 Aug 2014 #30

Can't quite recall, but they were. boston bean Aug 2014 #33

Well if someone is told their post is "off topic" then if someone wanted to discuss that hughee99 Aug 2014 #35

the meaning of this thread was clear as a comtinuation. boston bean Aug 2014 #36

so an honest question dsc Aug 2014 #38

My thinking is that they create a new thread. hughee99 Aug 2014 #42

I believe the OP of this thread was invited by the OP of the other thread.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2014 #44

I assumed this was directed more at the "YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT MALE VICTIMS!!!" MRA whiners. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #55

Was there someone disputing this fact? nt boston bean Aug 2014 #5

You're right that it's not a contest CreekDog Aug 2014 #6

Thank you, CreekDog. NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #7

It's like you tried to derail a thread against the lynching of blacks CreekDog Aug 2014 #17

Thank You Creek Dog....you made the exact point I was going to make... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #37

Oh, please. Just stop, dude. Okay? AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #53

Your post only increases my certainty CreekDog Sep 2014 #62

Erm, what? nt AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #63

Overwhelmingly, women and children are more frequent victims of domestic violence. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #19

The main takeaway, for me, is that women are far more likely to be seriously injured or killed nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #57

It's even worse when a gun is present SecularMotion Aug 2014 #20

yawn trumad Aug 2014 #25

+1 more yawn CreekDog Aug 2014 #43

I am sorry something happened to you. Since you did not go into specifics. I just apologize Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #27

Thank you. NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #31

The Feeling is mutual. You are a good egg, NYC_SKP. I know that you mean well Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #32

actually don't the sheer number of instances suggest it's a greater concern? CreekDog Aug 2014 #41

Hold on..."Add to the list, violence perpetrated upon children and animals.. " flvegan Sep 2014 #54

Excellent post davidn3600 Sep 2014 #59

So much disingenuous "What about the menz?" bullshit out there in Internet-land nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #64