General Discussion

Laelth

(32,017 posts)

6. Are you familiar with Steven Moffat?

Mon Sep 1, 2014, 10:21 AM

Sep 2014

He is the writer for a UK comedy show called "Coupling" and he's also the lead writer for Doctor Who.

What he argued in the episode called "Inferno" is relevant here.

We face a Nietzchean dilemma on this issue. Do we accept people for what they are and embrace humanity for what it is? Or do we advocate for the annihilation (or re-education, perhaps) of those whose actions do not comport with our own ethics?

Each of us must make this decision individually.

-Laelth

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

131 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

The saddest part of the nude celebrity photo hack [View all] MineralMan Sep 2014 OP

Why do people rubber neck at gruesome fatality car wrecks? Hemmingway Sep 2014 #1

Not everyone does. Personally, I turn my focus to driving MineralMan Sep 2014 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Sep 2014 #2

yes but they aren't being PAID for this jberryhill Sep 2014 #8

So the unauthorized photos are the HubertHeaver Sep 2014 #37

"revenge porn" happens to ordinary victims regularly jberryhill Sep 2014 #83

Victim blaming is victim blaming. MineralMan Sep 2014 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Sep 2014 #39

Being photographed naked is degrading yourself???? HERVEPA Sep 2014 #46

She had her photos on what she thought was a private device, pnwmom Sep 2014 #54

Degrade herself? Who the fuck are you to judge? She was a victim of hacking, "ann". PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #55

These pictures were taken from private accounts meadowlark5 Sep 2014 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Sep 2014 #41

You got a 7 - 0 hide on another thread for "slut-shaming." pnwmom Sep 2014 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Sep 2014 #58

This is a private website, not run by the government. You don't have a 'right' to "freedom of PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #59

Well, hey, if you didn't want people to hide your posts NuclearDem Sep 2014 #62

I lol'd PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #64

This is a private website, with RULES. MADem Sep 2014 #70

There are 1000s of other "anything goes" forums then. alp227 Sep 2014 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Sep 2014 #86

Your posting history indicates you've Codeine Sep 2014 #84

Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #87

And, yet ann--- Sep 2014 #89

You self delete a lot. Bet you are not here long. nt Logical Sep 2014 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Sep 2014 #88

She did NOT post the photos on a website. She used her phone to take pictures pnwmom Sep 2014 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Sep 2014 #95

You called her that name in a post that was hidden -- as you know. pnwmom Sep 2014 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Sep 2014 #97

Victim blaming is not acceptable here. And, no, taking pictures on your own phone pnwmom Sep 2014 #99

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Sep 2014 #100

First you say people may be victims if someone hacks into their private online photos pnwmom Sep 2014 #103

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Sep 2014 #114

Since you dug the hole all the way to China Generic Other Sep 2014 #119

Sorry ann--- Sep 2014 #120

You missed one... ScreamingMeemie Sep 2014 #121

Um, because it's fun? hunter Sep 2014 #109

That is like saying anything you bring into a home is liable to be burglarized, ergo Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2014 #112

someone mercuryblues Sep 2014 #113

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Sep 2014 #115

you keep mercuryblues Sep 2014 #116

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Sep 2014 #117

YES mercuryblues Sep 2014 #118

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Sep 2014 #101

dear Ann Kalidurga Sep 2014 #31

So much FAIL in your post. JaneyVee Sep 2014 #35

Agree. Someone has issues obviously. Katashi_itto Sep 2014 #104

Most of them had to be photographed nekkid to become celebrities Warpy Sep 2014 #43

Oh, just stop. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #53

Why make a thread about it Harmony Blue Sep 2014 #3

Why not make a thread about it? MineralMan Sep 2014 #13

Why ask why? Kalidurga Sep 2014 #32

So it can be discussed. Not like people didn't know about the subjest. HERVEPA Sep 2014 #48

Well we must show how superior we are to the celebrity naked picture searchers. L0oniX Sep 2014 #66

His other one on the topic wasn't getting enough attention. morningfog Sep 2014 #93

This thread is useless without...never mind. randome Sep 2014 #4

Although I doubt it in this case, celebrities have been known to leak stuff and MADem Sep 2014 #27

JL is already the most bankable female actor out there. It's unfeeling to suggest she did pnwmom Sep 2014 #57

Cough .... ahem. Why are you "suggesting" that I "suggested" such a thing? MADem Sep 2014 #61

Because in your "doubt" you planted the suggestion. pnwmom Sep 2014 #63

What you just did was accuse me in a nasty and uncivil fashion of doing something I did not do. MADem Sep 2014 #65

It was yesterday JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #5

This was all over the news this morning. Not everyone is MineralMan Sep 2014 #17

Ahhh JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #40

Are you familiar with Steven Moffat? Laelth Sep 2014 #6

No, I'm not familiar with that person or show. MineralMan Sep 2014 #14

I will never accept Steven Moffat as a good writer. randome Sep 2014 #71

That's the chance you take if you take nude photos or videos. RiffRandell Sep 2014 #7

Perhaps. My focus, though, is not about why people MineralMan Sep 2014 #22

I agree it's a crime. RiffRandell Sep 2014 #24

This thread, and others discussing this non-political issue, will probably MADem Sep 2014 #29

More so the original thread. RiffRandell Sep 2014 #34

I had heard about that Anderson/Lee tape but I've never seen any of that stuff. MADem Sep 2014 #42

Lol! RiffRandell Sep 2014 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Sep 2014 #44

Oh, I don't think anyone knows anything of the sort! MADem Sep 2014 #47

I'm glad you know so much about her. Care to tell us more about her that we might not know? HERVEPA Sep 2014 #49

No one cared about the Favre and Weiner pics RandiFan1290 Sep 2014 #9

Sacred? Really? MineralMan Sep 2014 #15

You mean the photos that terminated Weiners whistler162 Sep 2014 #19

Yeah they were posted all over DU RandiFan1290 Sep 2014 #20

He deliberately sent them over the open internet. JL did not. pnwmom Sep 2014 #78

If everybody everywhere had nude pictures, fadedrose Sep 2014 #10

A lot of relationships will end because of this. AngryAmish Sep 2014 #11

Could be, I suppose. MineralMan Sep 2014 #18

Naked bodies depress the fuck outta me. conservaphobe Sep 2014 #21

I'm actually pretty indifferent to them. MineralMan Sep 2014 #23

There's plenty of stuff much worthier of being sad and depressed about. Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #25

Times have changed... Mike Nelson Sep 2014 #26

Why take photos of your naked self rusty fender Sep 2014 #30

She didn't post them online. What she did was no different pnwmom Sep 2014 #67

If she hadn't taken rusty fender Sep 2014 #107

You are victim- blaming. pnwmom Sep 2014 #108

It is not the same rusty fender Sep 2014 #122

It is exactly the same. A woman could choose to go outside alone at night. pnwmom Sep 2014 #123

And you belittle actual rape victims rusty fender Sep 2014 #124

No I do not. And you certainly are not a rape victim yourself or you wouldn't pnwmom Sep 2014 #125

I'm not the one who thinks that a rusty fender Sep 2014 #129

They ARE equivalent in kind though not in degree. Are you smart enough to understand the difference? pnwmom Sep 2014 #130

You just lost the argument rusty fender Sep 2014 #131

Guess what? A crime victim is a crime victim. Period. End of story. alp227 Sep 2014 #128

It's really sad that a lot of people missed your entire point. Kalidurga Sep 2014 #33

Seems like she may have some issues of her own. HERVEPA Sep 2014 #51

I doubt if the person is female. pnwmom Sep 2014 #68

Yeh, I guess you're right. I see (s)he got a hide and did a self-delete HERVEPA Sep 2014 #74

Are you seriously asking why anyone would want to see a naked photo of a beautiful person? Marr Sep 2014 #36

She DID take the precautions to secure her data. It was SUPPOSED pnwmom Sep 2014 #69

That's a bit like saying Ford is responsible for your car being stolen, because Marr Sep 2014 #73

Not logically it isn't. pnwmom Sep 2014 #77

Nothing is truly secure on the internet. Marr Sep 2014 #79

I could put my wallet stuffed full of cash on a public sidewalk... randome Sep 2014 #80

Exactly. If it's out on the net other people can get ahold of it. leftyladyfrommo Sep 2014 #105

You can opt out of iCloud. I would not put sensitive data in any cloud emulatorloo Sep 2014 #81

I didn't turn mine on. But I can understand that many neophytes don't know what the pnwmom Sep 2014 #85

Control of women through slut shaming and humiliation, that's why. Warpy Sep 2014 #38

I didn't know about it until I read this OP. How about everyone stop talking about it sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #45

Way to go. Just, way to go. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #50

+1 leftstreet Sep 2014 #60

Well said. emulatorloo Sep 2014 #82

I miss a lot of interesting stuff when I'm not on DU lunatica Sep 2014 #72

Silly question... pfitz59 Sep 2014 #76

They can just Google The Fappening. Reddit is all over it. 4chan is as well. flvegan Sep 2014 #91

Lol, you were probably first to search n/t whatchamacallit Sep 2014 #94

Nope. It's interesting that you would think that, though. MineralMan Sep 2014 #98

The saddest part of all these events, to me, is the crap security of the Internet. riqster Sep 2014 #102

With all that's wrong with the world... fadedrose Sep 2014 #106

No, the saddest part is that images of their bodies are being traded as/for currency. PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #110

You make a good point. Without the demand for it, MineralMan Sep 2014 #127

if there was no demand, would it even happen? La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #111

That's an excellent question. MineralMan Sep 2014 #126