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LeftyMom

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99. Yes.

Mon Sep 1, 2014, 07:27 PM

Sep 2014

Just as sharing your bits with one person isn't throwing open the door to make your crotch a public space, snapping a picture of those bits doesn't mean anybody who you don't intend help themselves to that picture.

Human beings have been drawing/painting/sculpting/taking pictures of themselves/each other naked for as long as there have been human beings. If you wouldn't grab somebody's wallet to get a picture out of it, you shouldn't get into their phone either. If you wouldn't rifle through a wallet somebody else stole you shouldn't help yourself to stolen images.

Technology is imperfect. Locks can be broken, safes cracked, phones hacked. Nothing is secure when enough time and energy is applied to releasing it. The only limit is human fucking decency.

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Are you victim blaming when you encourage people not to take nude selfies? [View all] trumad Sep 2014 OP

Wow! Laelth Sep 2014 #1

It's the way you're saying it. kcr Sep 2014 #2

Perhaps. .. trumad Sep 2014 #4

I know. I don't think you do kcr Sep 2014 #19

I agree the phrasing makes a difference, and I'd go with what pintobean said... PoliticAverse Sep 2014 #6

I diasgree. tazkcmo Sep 2014 #81

I told my daughter pintobean Sep 2014 #3

This is the right tack to take. Puts the decision in her hands, and gives your enough Sep 2014 #18

That is absolutely true. cwydro Sep 2014 #83

Yeah, but what will you say if she does something unwise? hunter Sep 2014 #91

She's in her mid 20s and fine. pintobean Sep 2014 #102

if one takes a nude selfie, one cannot claim to be a victim in any outcome from that choice nt msongs Sep 2014 #5

A famous "feminist" once said Kalidurga Sep 2014 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author Laelth Sep 2014 #12

Ridiculous anology. nt cwydro Sep 2014 #13

Oh I see now Kalidurga Sep 2014 #16

Sorry, I was out on my bike. cwydro Sep 2014 #78

You don't need to apologize for being on your bike. Kalidurga Sep 2014 #86

Oh, well then cwydro Sep 2014 #103

Stunningly stupid post. n/t jaysunb Sep 2014 #27

You seem intelligent Kalidurga Sep 2014 #53

Did you really type that? yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #58

Did I type what? Kalidurga Sep 2014 #64

I'm laughing at how many people are pissed over this statement. Lancero Sep 2014 #62

I can spot victim blaming from a mile away Kalidurga Sep 2014 #63

Puh-lease tazkcmo Sep 2014 #82

Is it really minizing rape to compare sexual abuse to rape? Kalidurga Sep 2014 #87

No tazkcmo Sep 2014 #88

OIC engaging in a legal activity Kalidurga Sep 2014 #90

I don't see tazkcmo Sep 2014 #92

I don't see why anyone should have to justify taking a nude selfie Kalidurga Sep 2014 #93

Did you read the OP? tazkcmo Sep 2014 #94

Did you read the OP? Kalidurga Sep 2014 #96

Not at all tazkcmo Sep 2014 #97

So it's still not relevant Kalidurga Sep 2014 #98

really dumb sentiment. HERVEPA Sep 2014 #28

Right. And if a woman walks around half-naked, it's her own fault if she's raped. pnwmom Sep 2014 #59

Why would you discourage people from doing something they wish to do? Kalidurga Sep 2014 #7

Maybe I should not discourage... trumad Sep 2014 #8

I think that is a good thing to do Kalidurga Sep 2014 #11

Are you OK with 9 year olds firing Uzi's? Renew Deal Sep 2014 #84

Explain how that is relevant to this discussion. Kalidurga Sep 2014 #85

It is not shaming to point out that ANY electronic picture has the potential to go public... brooklynite Sep 2014 #10

Is it victim blaming if you tell someone not to step out in front of traffic? hobbit709 Sep 2014 #14

No, it's victim blaming when someone walks on the sidewalk NuclearDem Sep 2014 #20

The consequences of doing stupid things fall on the one doing it. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #35

Ha! I made mine password2 to fool everyone... Inkfreak Sep 2014 #54

The burden of moral guilt is on the people who stole said property PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #61

Absolutely not. TM99 Sep 2014 #15

she, alone, has to suffer any negative consequences. Kalidurga Sep 2014 #17

Mind reading is not your strong suit. TM99 Sep 2014 #22

I am so sorry to hear that Kalidurga Sep 2014 #26

Of course a hacker is responsible for their actions, TM99 Sep 2014 #30

Risk management is prudent Kalidurga Sep 2014 #34

Again with the mind reading. TM99 Sep 2014 #41

Are you sure? Kalidurga Sep 2014 #48

It is not flipplant to recognize that as adults TM99 Sep 2014 #68

I love how you throw around the word adult as if Kalidurga Sep 2014 #89

A mind reader, arrogant TM99 Sep 2014 #108

+1 well said... n/t jaysunb Sep 2014 #29

I never understood taking nude photos or doing sex videos Cleita Sep 2014 #21

There is a big difference ripcord Sep 2014 #24

Well, many couples take make sex videos for their own private enjoyment RandySF Sep 2014 #60

People don't expect to have their private phones hacked pinboy3niner Sep 2014 #23

If you don't want nice things stolen, don't have nice things!! If you don't want your credit card # PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #25

This ScreamingMeemie Sep 2014 #31

Do you leave your nice things unsecured in your home or TM99 Sep 2014 #36

You clearly missed part of the post to which you responded. PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #37

Perhaps your point is not clear? nt TM99 Sep 2014 #43

+1 thank you. n/t Chan790 Sep 2014 #39

Eh, "don't leave your iPhone out in a bad neighborhood," is advice. joshcryer Sep 2014 #71

Nope. Iggo Sep 2014 #32

I don't take that attitude to those who advise me to lock the doors at night. Kaleva Sep 2014 #33

If you don't want your house broken into, don't have a house. PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #40

Yes, you are. Chan790 Sep 2014 #38

tell her to avoid cloud storage and that any picture she sends is one button push away geek tragedy Sep 2014 #42

I think you got it there. Where is this "victim blaming" coming from? I got that on libdem4life Sep 2014 #44

Thirty celebrity women's accounts were hacked PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #45

Cahoots? Why does anyone take nude photos and send them to the cloud or the bar down the libdem4life Sep 2014 #46

it's none of your business why. this isn't about you. PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #49

Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Isn't A "Scandal." It's A Sex Crime. PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #47

While I Agree With Almost Everything You Said. . . ProfessorGAC Sep 2014 #66

It is what we quaintly once called "protecting." WinkyDink Sep 2014 #50

If your response to someone having their private photos hacked is gollygee Sep 2014 #51

Maybe use a Kodak instamatic and not a cell phone? notadmblnd Sep 2014 #52

Sometimes truth needs to be said yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #55

You definitely don't put nudes on a cloud server! LittleBlue Sep 2014 #56

The bottom-line reality of the world is this: RandySF Sep 2014 #57

I'm taking down my FB page for this reason. Cleita Sep 2014 #65

If you want to have nude photos taken of yourself The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2014 #67

How about an old fashioned Polaroid. No negatives there either. Cleita Sep 2014 #69

Would you blame me if I left my wallet full of cash on a public sidewalk and it disappeared? randome Sep 2014 #70

I tell people not to keep money in banks in case they are hacked... The Straight Story Sep 2014 #72

Yes. You have a right to private data storage. Yavin4 Sep 2014 #73

Nude pictures get shown around. That's just their nature. JVS Sep 2014 #74

I think it is all projection ... oldhippie Sep 2014 #75

I would encourage people to understand how the cloud works. Warren DeMontague Sep 2014 #76

I guess it depends. temporary311 Sep 2014 #77

No tazkcmo Sep 2014 #79

Yes. Creeps get off on the fact the pictures are stolen. hunter Sep 2014 #80

should people also not have nice things in their home because there are thieves in the world? La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #95

Yes. LeftyMom Sep 2014 #99

It's often a touchy issue when you suggest precautionary measures against victimization. Silent3 Sep 2014 #100

You can take all the naked selfies you want tularetom Sep 2014 #101

That's pretty much where I am with this. Snap away... WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2014 #105

Get her mom to say it. Then it's okay. nt lumberjack_jeff Sep 2014 #104

A dear friend was asked to send nude selfies of herself from the waist up Brickbat Sep 2014 #106

Personally, I would suggest that if she doesn't want to risk exposure, TM99 Sep 2014 #107