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The Traveler

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8. I was taught to shoot before I could read

Wed Sep 3, 2014, 05:22 AM

Sep 2014

and there is no way the elder males of my family would have allowed me anywhere near a weapon like that at her age. At age 9, I had fired thousands of rounds from .22 rifles and .38 pistols ... but always under close supervision and any violation of safety resulted in immediate grounding. There weren't many of those ...

But these are gun nuts. Who the hell introduces their kid to a freakin' Uzi?

I'm a gun owner ... but no provision of the Bill of Rights is intended to enable the behaviors of an idiot and a jerk. These people are both. The Second Amendment, or its interpretation needs to be fixed. This is madness, and it needs to be confronted. In this case, I think child services needs to take a close look at this family ... someone is gonna get hurt. Oh. Someone already HAS been hurt. Yeah.

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Parents of girl with uzi did ignored instructor as he lay with mortal head wound [View all] RandySF Sep 2014 OP

I understand parents' concern for their little girl might... TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #1

I totally agree. Nt newfie11 Sep 2014 #2

Yes they are. And then some. n/t nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #3

Yes a thousand times. n/t. bvf Sep 2014 #7

I was taught to shoot before I could read The Traveler Sep 2014 #8

I have little interest in guns, but here we agree absolutely... TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #9

"...the 2nd Amendment doesn't protect stupidity or ignorance." Jamastiene Sep 2014 #29

As do all the Amendments. TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #36

Unfortunately, it is the 2nd A that usually does...and does with lethal effect... CTyankee Sep 2014 #42

The "elder males"? cwydro Sep 2014 #10

... avebury Sep 2014 #13

Same thing crossed my mind. Aerows Sep 2014 #47

Lol! cwydro Sep 2014 #87

Exactly. The 'elder males' are the ones saying, "Hey, Bubba, watch this." Nay Sep 2014 #58

THANK YOU!!! 3catwoman3 Sep 2014 #18

so firing small weapons Jeneral2885 Sep 2014 #23

No, but enabling a totally overmatched . . . brush Sep 2014 #27

There could be nine year olds Jeneral2885 Sep 2014 #50

A "gun nut" Aerows Sep 2014 #48

Are Uzis the only most destructive gun Jeneral2885 Sep 2014 #51

Ahhh . . . there seems to be a failure to communicate here brush Sep 2014 #52

A 9 year old is incapable of handling Aerows Sep 2014 #67

Yeah d_r Sep 2014 #55

You said, "any violation of safety resulted in immediate grounding. There weren't many of those ..." Luminous Animal Sep 2014 #72

I think I agree with every letter in your post. nt stevenleser Sep 2014 #19

beyond that Jeneral2885 Sep 2014 #25

I think that as some of the best jurists in the country's history have themselves LanternWaste Sep 2014 #86

Yeah, this is a "well, duh" headline Warpy Sep 2014 #28

Yes Aerows Sep 2014 #49

How could they not notice the man falling to the ground right next to her? magical thyme Sep 2014 #71

Who says they didn't see him go down? Jenoch Sep 2014 #73

they said it. nt magical thyme Sep 2014 #81

I hqve not read anythijg about the timing, have you? Jenoch Sep 2014 #82

the article at the link... magical thyme Sep 2014 #89

How long did that 'timeline' take Jenoch Sep 2014 #90

nobody has stated a specific amount of time. nt magical thyme Sep 2014 #91

Thank you for making my point. Jenoch Sep 2014 #93

Strange things happen when people are in shock or distress... TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #74

Yep! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2014 #78

"they didn't notice" is not the same as IGNORED Skittles Sep 2014 #4

Wile their first concern should be their child, they had to be avebury Sep 2014 #14

Sometimes a parent's concern for their child overwhelms them mythology Sep 2014 #16

Really? Jenoch Sep 2014 #20

You would have thought that one parent would have pulled avebury Sep 2014 #30

Why are you assuming they missed the Jenoch Sep 2014 #38

Probably what was reported in the AP report: avebury Sep 2014 #43

That probably lasted about 7 or fewer seconds. Jenoch Sep 2014 #45

I don't think they are talking about a great deal of time here Skittles Sep 2014 #37

i wonder if their concern was for the girl herself or over not getting the pic they wanted JI7 Sep 2014 #5

Why did you replace "didn't notice" with 'ignored?' Live and Learn Sep 2014 #6

How the hell do you "not notice" a man with a head shot? RandySF Sep 2014 #17

When you think your child has been hurt shooting a gun kcr Sep 2014 #22

They didn't 'ignore' him-- they didn't 'notice him' ColesCountyDem Sep 2014 #11

Indeed. nt Crabby Appleton Sep 2014 #34

If the instructor was laying on the ground, then they ignored him. djean111 Sep 2014 #12

To be entirely fair, the death was about 90% the dead guys fault. Xithras Sep 2014 #33

Point taken. djean111 Sep 2014 #35

Exactly.... sendero Sep 2014 #53

"Earned his death" marions ghost Sep 2014 #56

He didn't simply make a "stupid" decision. Xithras Sep 2014 #57

I understand all that marions ghost Sep 2014 #59

few people deserve to die jollyreaper2112 Sep 2014 #77

When it comes to tragic early death marions ghost Sep 2014 #80

responsibility jollyreaper2112 Sep 2014 #85

Sure marions ghost Sep 2014 #88

Dear god, the gun wasn't hurt was it? Katashi_itto Sep 2014 #15

Parents cared about the child Jeneral2885 Sep 2014 #21

"forced to fire it" Aerows Sep 2014 #68

May not be Wisdom Jeneral2885 Sep 2014 #75

I think we had a sarcasm disconnect somewhere n/t Aerows Sep 2014 #83

The insanity of worshiping lethal weapons by adults will now cause Rex Sep 2014 #24

all weapons are lethal Jeneral2885 Sep 2014 #76

Yes but none are worshiped like the gun is. Rex Sep 2014 #79

That's a flame-bait bullshit headline and you know it. arcane1 Sep 2014 #26

What a strange interpretation of that article to make that subject title. aikoaiko Sep 2014 #31

As a mom, I can totally understand this. Not that my children would ever be in THIS situation but jillan Sep 2014 #32

What were they going to do put his head back together? dilby Sep 2014 #39

It's more likely they chose not to bring attention to it. joshcryer Sep 2014 #40

We had a tragic case here in MA in 2008. CentralMass Sep 2014 #41

I remember that TorchTheWitch Sep 2014 #61

Thank you for the welcome :-) CentralMass Sep 2014 #65

Placing all the blame the dead guy. Very nice. Johonny Sep 2014 #44

they are correct. Niceguy1 Sep 2014 #46

What about the managers at the gun range? Blue_Tires Sep 2014 #66

Yeah marions ghost Sep 2014 #60

In the end, gun nuts circle the wagons and protect the "culture" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2014 #62

The irony... marions ghost Sep 2014 #63

Yeah, his employer should probably be taking some of the heat, Crunchy Frog Sep 2014 #84

I can not fathom the gun culture these days LiberalArkie Sep 2014 #54

Great post Strelnikov_ Sep 2014 #70

Randy, the story does not say that the parents ignored the wounded man CreekDog Sep 2014 #64

So? Strelnikov_ Sep 2014 #69

"Oh no, no; he'll be all right. Now, wasn't that fun, sweetie?" Aristus Sep 2014 #92