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stevenleser

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13. I think to people like Putin, letting them get away with Crimea and Eastern Ukraine is like

Reply to BillZBubb (Reply #7)

Wed Sep 3, 2014, 02:03 PM

Sep 2014

running from a predator. There is something instinctual that kicks in whereas even if the predator didn't necessarily intend to stalk and hunt you, you are going to set something off in them that will cause them to chase you.

Same thing with reacting to a dictator that has just engaged in an unprovoked war of aggression and conquest by not aggressively confronting them in some way. I happen to think Putin will grab all of Ukraine and as much of the former Soviet held areas as he can anyway. But if he hasn't set his mind on that for sure at this point, letting him get away scot free with what he has taken will set him on that course.

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David Cameron warns of 'appeasing Putin as we did Hitler' [View all] Nye Bevan Sep 2014 OP

I'm more worried about appeasing Cameron. CJCRANE Sep 2014 #1

+1000. nt. polly7 Sep 2014 #5

The plaintive wail of all modern warmongers ... earthside Sep 2014 #2

What utter, lusting for a war, bullshit. djean111 Sep 2014 #3

did hitler have nukes? hmmmm bowens43 Sep 2014 #4

U.K. Prime Ministers may never be able to shake the legacy of Neville Chamberlain. gordianot Sep 2014 #6

Putin isn't Hitler and the situation isn't exactly the same, but there is some truth too. BillZBubb Sep 2014 #7

We helped invert the power structure in Ukraine overnight CJCRANE Sep 2014 #8

+ World War III Octafish Sep 2014 #12

We didn't invert the power structure overnight. Putin did. BillZBubb Sep 2014 #14

I think to people like Putin, letting them get away with Crimea and Eastern Ukraine is like stevenleser Sep 2014 #13

Agreed. To do nothing is not a responsible option. History shows that. BillZBubb Sep 2014 #15

Perhaps we should split Ukraine with Putin like Hitler and Stalin did to Poland in 1939. pampango Sep 2014 #9

If we did that, which would we be Hitler or Stalin? BillZBubb Sep 2014 #17

If we did such a thing it could easily be either. One aspect of fascism is the right of strong pampango Sep 2014 #18

I thought it might be sarcasm, but these days you never know! nt BillZBubb Sep 2014 #20

Ugh. Containment is an option here. Derp. nt geek tragedy Sep 2014 #10

He's more afraid of UKIP than the modern-day Hitler. nt LittleBlue Sep 2014 #11

Cameron should get together with McCain to devise more war propaganda. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #16

Right-wingers happily played the "appeasement" card regarding Saddam Hussein bullwinkle428 Sep 2014 #19

The right wing always wrongly uses the "appeasement" card. BillZBubb Sep 2014 #21