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In reply to the discussion: We have allowed ed reformers to say weird untrue things about teachers and students. [View all]madfloridian
(88,117 posts)20. Good to see you. Powerful piece of writing. Love this part about standards.
2. Dont talk to us about the importance and rigor of the standards.
I teach high school English, and I can tell you that language arts standards, whether the current Common Core Standards or some other set of standards, are neither rigorous nor non-rigorous. Everything depends on what individual teachers actually do with them.
Furthermore, language arts standards simply describe an assumed, conventional set of behaviors that competent readers and writers are expected to display. But though a competent and hardworking student may incidentally do what the standards describe, displaying certain literate behaviors is not the same as seriously and conscientiously engaging texts and writing.
I work very hard to ensure that students do not simply go through the motions of studying literature and writing, even though going through the motions is usually enough to ensure good test scores. I require that they take the texts and assignments seriously and learn something important from them beyond what the standards specify. All of it is standards-based, not because I try to make it so, but because the Common Core language arts standards are so general that just about any assignment can be interpreted and defended in terms of the standards. Two teachers can teach the same standard using different texts, different methods, and with different purposes, giving students radically different experiences.In essence, that means the standard, ostensibly the same in both cases, is internally incoherent, and in that sense non-standard. Standards-based is a meaningless criterion for high school language arts lessons.
Thanks for sharing. The reformers who know very little about the minds of children and how to education them are doing great harm right now.
There is nothing wrong with standards, but there is too much wrong with requiring ALL students...special ed or not...to take and pass the same test.
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We have allowed ed reformers to say weird untrue things about teachers and students. [View all]
madfloridian
Sep 2014
OP
It's like they studied the Finns, whose education system is very successful...
immoderate
Sep 2014
#2
We have let them tell us schools are failing, that teachers don't care about kids.
madfloridian
Sep 2014
#21
Good to see you. Powerful piece of writing. Love this part about standards.
madfloridian
Sep 2014
#20
I am so worried about this and most especially at what the educational platform will look like
Jefferson23
Sep 2014
#25