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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
20. Good to see you. Powerful piece of writing. Love this part about standards.
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 10:56 AM
Sep 2014
2. Don’t talk to us about the importance and rigor of the standards.

I teach high school English, and I can tell you that language arts standards, whether the current Common Core Standards or some other set of standards, are neither rigorous nor non-rigorous. Everything depends on what individual teachers actually do with them.

Furthermore, language arts standards simply describe an assumed, conventional set of behaviors that competent readers and writers are expected to display. But though a competent and hardworking student may incidentally do what the standards describe, displaying certain literate behaviors is not the same as seriously and conscientiously engaging texts and writing.

I work very hard to ensure that students do not simply go through the motions of studying literature and writing, even though going through the motions is usually enough to ensure good test scores. I require that they take the texts and assignments seriously and learn something important from them beyond what the standards specify. All of it is standards-based, not because I try to make it so, but because the Common Core language arts standards are so general that just about any assignment can be interpreted and defended in terms of the standards. Two teachers can teach the same standard using different texts, different methods, and with different purposes, giving students radically different experiences.In essence, that means the standard, ostensibly the same in both cases, is internally incoherent, and in that sense non-standard. “Standards-based” is a meaningless criterion for high school language arts lessons.


Thanks for sharing. The reformers who know very little about the minds of children and how to education them are doing great harm right now.

There is nothing wrong with standards, but there is too much wrong with requiring ALL students...special ed or not...to take and pass the same test.

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K&R.... daleanime Sep 2014 #1
It's like they studied the Finns, whose education system is very successful... immoderate Sep 2014 #2
Good point...just the opposite. madfloridian Sep 2014 #4
k&r Starry Messenger Sep 2014 #3
Right wingers lie constantly, about every issue, and get away with it. Doctor_J Sep 2014 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Enthusiast Sep 2014 #15
You are precisely fucking correct. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #16
"and get away with it" FiveGoodMen Sep 2014 #28
The original charter school concept has been completely corrupted. Hissyspit Sep 2014 #6
We are not supposed to notice. madfloridian Sep 2014 #14
Alas, I fear you answered your own question, madfloridian RufusTFirefly Sep 2014 #7
And therein lies the conundrum, er, strategy. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #13
We have let them tell us schools are failing, that teachers don't care about kids. madfloridian Sep 2014 #21
As a Special Education teacher evemac Sep 2014 #8
Exactly right. Staffings, diagnoses, IEPs...they can not just be ignored. madfloridian Sep 2014 #10
knr, two children here and Very Very Different needs ... slipslidingaway Sep 2014 #9
Agree with that. madfloridian Sep 2014 #18
I think that too many turn a blind eye when their team is in power ... slipslidingaway Sep 2014 #31
Bookmaking for Later mckara Sep 2014 #11
Thank you, Madfloridian. They want the money. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #12
Exactly. They want the money. madfloridian Sep 2014 #22
Big city Democrats need to get a clue. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #23
Oh yeah, we go into teaching for the big bucks. YOHABLO Sep 2014 #17
.... madfloridian Sep 2014 #24
Hi MadFloridian Chiquitita Sep 2014 #19
Good to see you. Powerful piece of writing. Love this part about standards. madfloridian Sep 2014 #20
I am so worried about this and most especially at what the educational platform will look like Jefferson23 Sep 2014 #25
the tests sets our children up to fail questionseverything Sep 2014 #26
That is how it works. madfloridian Sep 2014 #29
way back before Obamas first term. They set this up. Remember all the states saying how much it cost Sunlei Sep 2014 #27
..... madfloridian Sep 2014 #30
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