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52. Actually the US DOES have a base in Cuba per the Cuban-American Treaty of 1903.

Fri Sep 5, 2014, 04:23 PM

Sep 2014

The Cuban–American Treaty is a lease of property, and consists of two documents. The first was finalized in February 1903, and the second finalized in July 1903.
The treaty stipulates that Republic of Cuba lease to the United States specific lands in Cuba, most notably the land that surrounds Guantánamo Bay, for the purpose of coaling and naval stations, for as long as necessary. The lease stipulates that the United States "shall exercise complete jurisdiction and control", while recognizing "the continuance of the ultimate sovereignty of the Republic of Cuba". Cuban vessels involved in trade will have free passage through the waters. The United States has the right to modify the waters as necessary.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban%E2%80%93American_Treaty

Bad move on their part making it open ended and requiring both parties to dissolve.
But, what ya gonna do? Treaty is as treaty was written.

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