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marions ghost

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88. Sure

Fri Sep 5, 2014, 04:55 PM

Sep 2014

responsibility plays into the cause of death.

But I still maintain it is too judgmental to say that someone "earned their death" by being stupid. And certainly this guy had help in doing something stupid--not only the other adults but the permissive and protectionist gun culture.

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Parents of girl with uzi did ignored instructor as he lay with mortal head wound [View all] RandySF Sep 2014 OP

I understand parents' concern for their little girl might... TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #1

I totally agree. Nt newfie11 Sep 2014 #2

Yes they are. And then some. n/t nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #3

Yes a thousand times. n/t. bvf Sep 2014 #7

I was taught to shoot before I could read The Traveler Sep 2014 #8

I have little interest in guns, but here we agree absolutely... TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #9

"...the 2nd Amendment doesn't protect stupidity or ignorance." Jamastiene Sep 2014 #29

As do all the Amendments. TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #36

Unfortunately, it is the 2nd A that usually does...and does with lethal effect... CTyankee Sep 2014 #42

The "elder males"? cwydro Sep 2014 #10

... avebury Sep 2014 #13

Same thing crossed my mind. Aerows Sep 2014 #47

Lol! cwydro Sep 2014 #87

Exactly. The 'elder males' are the ones saying, "Hey, Bubba, watch this." Nay Sep 2014 #58

THANK YOU!!! 3catwoman3 Sep 2014 #18

so firing small weapons Jeneral2885 Sep 2014 #23

No, but enabling a totally overmatched . . . brush Sep 2014 #27

There could be nine year olds Jeneral2885 Sep 2014 #50

A "gun nut" Aerows Sep 2014 #48

Are Uzis the only most destructive gun Jeneral2885 Sep 2014 #51

Ahhh . . . there seems to be a failure to communicate here brush Sep 2014 #52

A 9 year old is incapable of handling Aerows Sep 2014 #67

Yeah d_r Sep 2014 #55

You said, "any violation of safety resulted in immediate grounding. There weren't many of those ..." Luminous Animal Sep 2014 #72

I think I agree with every letter in your post. nt stevenleser Sep 2014 #19

beyond that Jeneral2885 Sep 2014 #25

I think that as some of the best jurists in the country's history have themselves LanternWaste Sep 2014 #86

Yeah, this is a "well, duh" headline Warpy Sep 2014 #28

Yes Aerows Sep 2014 #49

How could they not notice the man falling to the ground right next to her? magical thyme Sep 2014 #71

Who says they didn't see him go down? Jenoch Sep 2014 #73

they said it. nt magical thyme Sep 2014 #81

I hqve not read anythijg about the timing, have you? Jenoch Sep 2014 #82

the article at the link... magical thyme Sep 2014 #89

How long did that 'timeline' take Jenoch Sep 2014 #90

nobody has stated a specific amount of time. nt magical thyme Sep 2014 #91

Thank you for making my point. Jenoch Sep 2014 #93

Strange things happen when people are in shock or distress... TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #74

Yep! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2014 #78

"they didn't notice" is not the same as IGNORED Skittles Sep 2014 #4

Wile their first concern should be their child, they had to be avebury Sep 2014 #14

Sometimes a parent's concern for their child overwhelms them mythology Sep 2014 #16

Really? Jenoch Sep 2014 #20

You would have thought that one parent would have pulled avebury Sep 2014 #30

Why are you assuming they missed the Jenoch Sep 2014 #38

Probably what was reported in the AP report: avebury Sep 2014 #43

That probably lasted about 7 or fewer seconds. Jenoch Sep 2014 #45

I don't think they are talking about a great deal of time here Skittles Sep 2014 #37

i wonder if their concern was for the girl herself or over not getting the pic they wanted JI7 Sep 2014 #5

Why did you replace "didn't notice" with 'ignored?' Live and Learn Sep 2014 #6

How the hell do you "not notice" a man with a head shot? RandySF Sep 2014 #17

When you think your child has been hurt shooting a gun kcr Sep 2014 #22

They didn't 'ignore' him-- they didn't 'notice him' ColesCountyDem Sep 2014 #11

Indeed. nt Crabby Appleton Sep 2014 #34

If the instructor was laying on the ground, then they ignored him. djean111 Sep 2014 #12

To be entirely fair, the death was about 90% the dead guys fault. Xithras Sep 2014 #33

Point taken. djean111 Sep 2014 #35

Exactly.... sendero Sep 2014 #53

"Earned his death" marions ghost Sep 2014 #56

He didn't simply make a "stupid" decision. Xithras Sep 2014 #57

I understand all that marions ghost Sep 2014 #59

few people deserve to die jollyreaper2112 Sep 2014 #77

When it comes to tragic early death marions ghost Sep 2014 #80

responsibility jollyreaper2112 Sep 2014 #85

Sure marions ghost Sep 2014 #88

Dear god, the gun wasn't hurt was it? Katashi_itto Sep 2014 #15

Parents cared about the child Jeneral2885 Sep 2014 #21

"forced to fire it" Aerows Sep 2014 #68

May not be Wisdom Jeneral2885 Sep 2014 #75

I think we had a sarcasm disconnect somewhere n/t Aerows Sep 2014 #83

The insanity of worshiping lethal weapons by adults will now cause Rex Sep 2014 #24

all weapons are lethal Jeneral2885 Sep 2014 #76

Yes but none are worshiped like the gun is. Rex Sep 2014 #79

That's a flame-bait bullshit headline and you know it. arcane1 Sep 2014 #26

What a strange interpretation of that article to make that subject title. aikoaiko Sep 2014 #31

As a mom, I can totally understand this. Not that my children would ever be in THIS situation but jillan Sep 2014 #32

What were they going to do put his head back together? dilby Sep 2014 #39

It's more likely they chose not to bring attention to it. joshcryer Sep 2014 #40

We had a tragic case here in MA in 2008. CentralMass Sep 2014 #41

I remember that TorchTheWitch Sep 2014 #61

Thank you for the welcome :-) CentralMass Sep 2014 #65

Placing all the blame the dead guy. Very nice. Johonny Sep 2014 #44

they are correct. Niceguy1 Sep 2014 #46

What about the managers at the gun range? Blue_Tires Sep 2014 #66

Yeah marions ghost Sep 2014 #60

In the end, gun nuts circle the wagons and protect the "culture" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2014 #62

The irony... marions ghost Sep 2014 #63

Yeah, his employer should probably be taking some of the heat, Crunchy Frog Sep 2014 #84

I can not fathom the gun culture these days LiberalArkie Sep 2014 #54

Great post Strelnikov_ Sep 2014 #70

Randy, the story does not say that the parents ignored the wounded man CreekDog Sep 2014 #64

So? Strelnikov_ Sep 2014 #69

"Oh no, no; he'll be all right. Now, wasn't that fun, sweetie?" Aristus Sep 2014 #92