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AngryAmish

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7. What listeners?

Sat Sep 6, 2014, 05:36 PM

Sep 2014

Let us pretend it is 1982. We can comfortably still listen to 1982 radio today.

This is a generational problem. Demographically the only generation that counts is the baby boomers. You fish where there are fish.

It is easier pushing another album by artist x than thirty new bands. Also, baby boomers dont buy new music. The new music gene gets turned off around 27 or so. I used to be a music fan. Near High Fidelity level music geek. Now in my 40s I see my fandom as stupid, time consuming and exclusionary.

I listen to classical, jazz and foreign music nowadays. Why? I don't know the songs. I am bored by rock and roll. Only morons would go see Pink Floyd for the tenth time. Or the first.

And, of course, The Eagles still suck.

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Who said “Rock is finally dead” ? [View all] loyalsister Sep 2014 OP

KISS is to rock what Avril Lavigne is to punk or 50 Cent to hip-hop Scootaloo Sep 2014 #1

and taylor swift to country JI7 Sep 2014 #4

What listeners? AngryAmish Sep 2014 #7

Saw Floyd 3 times Cartoonist Sep 2014 #21

whoosh AngryAmish Sep 2014 #23

Serious question re All In The Family AngryAmish Sep 2014 #30

"You're totally elitist....you think you're the under appreciated scholars.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2014 #60

Going to see Tom Petty in a few weeks myself! Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2014 #63

Great blue-eyed soul singer too (Winwood, that is). nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #87

Oh yeah! Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2014 #103

This might be heresy to some, but generally I enjoy the white boy blues-rock as much as the original nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #130

That's cool. Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2014 #145

Yeah, there's always been a great deal of cross-pollination between "white" and "black" music. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #148

I'm 29 and I've listened to Tom Petty since I was about 4. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #86

I also use the Glenn Miller analogy, but in regards to Ramones t-shirts and other punk nostalgia... Tom Ripley Sep 2014 #73

Why shouldn't they? Does good music have an expiration date? nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #88

Delete: dupe post Tom Ripley Sep 2014 #93

No, good music does not have an expiration date... Tom Ripley Sep 2014 #94

"I just find the use of forty year old artifacts to be signifiers of cutting edge rebellion to be nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #126

I'm guilty of it also... Tom Ripley Sep 2014 #135

I listen to music from the 1920's to today. A shitload of different genres, including classic rock. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #85

People still listen to Glenn Miller--he's one of my favorites. Good music is good music. MADem Sep 2014 #90

My mom told me she cried when Glenn Miller died. lovemydog Sep 2014 #105

If forced to listen to big band, I would probably go with Miller. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #131

When Miller was popular, Lombardo was still a fuddy-duddy! MADem Sep 2014 #134

I don't get much exposure to that kind of music. So thanks for the tunes. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #137

I love music....!! ANY kind of music...!!! MADem Sep 2014 #139

Archie wasn't an object of mirth because of his age. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #112

Untrue, I am 55 and still curious about treestar Sep 2014 #62

^^^THIS^^^ Tom Ripley Sep 2014 #71

Surprised you'd say your rock fandom was exclusionary and follow with... mattclearing Sep 2014 #109

They're not horrible so much as incredibly bland. I think that actually irritates some people more. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #167

That, I can understand. mattclearing Sep 2014 #173

Yeah, some of the earlier stuff - before they became multimillionaires and snorted mountains of coke nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #174

I think that's true loyalsister Sep 2014 #11

I stream this to the pool. Go Vols Sep 2014 #100

+100! zappaman Sep 2014 #12

I agree that consolidation killed RADIO, but it did not kill music. alarimer Sep 2014 #120

My music-listening life has been considerably happier since I discovered Spotify a couple years ago. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #132

In the words of Public Enemy... derby378 Sep 2014 #124

"A truly committed brilliant musician will find a way." Laelth Sep 2014 #2

I suspect there are a lot of people who have it completely backwards driving this loyalsister Sep 2014 #25

Mozart died a pauper because he was terrible with money. cemaphonic Sep 2014 #157

but there ARE a lot of musicians out there making good music and having a good time JI7 Sep 2014 #3

I've discovered a host of good music at some Starbucks stores. randome Sep 2014 #8

Well,Pete Townshend said it first sufrommich Sep 2014 #5

I miss Keith Moon n/t 8 track mind Sep 2014 #15

So do I.I know it sounds silly now that I'm 57 years old, sufrommich Sep 2014 #17

i was born shortly after he died but have seen videos JI7 Sep 2014 #54

Thanks for that!! loyalsister Sep 2014 #18

I've seen The Who 5 times in my life. sufrommich Sep 2014 #20

Twice here. lovemydog Sep 2014 #46

I sometimes think I was born too late! loyalsister Sep 2014 #53

It's really fun making musical connections, like a family tree. lovemydog Sep 2014 #59

One of my all time favorite songs loyalsister Sep 2014 #68

Seriously!! Initech Sep 2014 #98

When somebody tells me they like KISS, I immediately discount anything they have to say alcibiades_mystery Sep 2014 #6

yes, aren't they like that thomas kincaid guy who was more a business person than artist ? JI7 Sep 2014 #9

I agree. The first album my son ever bought was a sufrommich Sep 2014 #10

KISS was the white prole guy flipside of disco AngryAmish Sep 2014 #13

MY BIL has a bunch of kiss ornaments and toys loyalsister Sep 2014 #16

Gene Simmons is an idiot and an asshole. hifiguy Sep 2014 #14

plus a thousand LuvNewcastle Sep 2014 #22

+1 n/t Bonhomme Richard Sep 2014 #27

What does that clown know about Rock? johnp3907 Sep 2014 #19

"thanks to digital technology, i can carry as much rock n roll with me as i want" 8 track mind Sep 2014 #24

this will make you feel old ... napkinz Sep 2014 #26

my older brother got 8 track mind Sep 2014 #33

Hilarious Kalidurga Sep 2014 #36

I love those! loyalsister Sep 2014 #80

AWESOME!! loyalsister Sep 2014 #31

Frampton Comes Alive? Bob Seger? BTO?? Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2014 #106

I always enjoyed competent bar bands in small venues Warpy Sep 2014 #28

Who the fuck gives a shit what Gene Simmons has to say about anything RedCappedBandit Sep 2014 #29

good point loyalsister Sep 2014 #34

Seriously he's a marketer who plays a rock musician. Initech Sep 2014 #44

Don't forget 'Louder Than Love.' That actually might be my favorite of theirs. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #89

Good choice, I think Rusty Cage is probably my favorite Soundgarden song. Initech Sep 2014 #97

Google Steve Perry La 2014 rbrnmw Sep 2014 #32

Thanks! That was awesome loyalsister Sep 2014 #37

can you link Steve Perry? rbrnmw Sep 2014 #38

Here ya go loyalsister Sep 2014 #42

thanks rbrnmw Sep 2014 #45

I'll have to look for more loyalsister Sep 2014 #47

I hate how they dismiss true talent on those shows rbrnmw Sep 2014 #48

No joke loyalsister Sep 2014 #51

awesome I love the Boss rbrnmw Sep 2014 #40

Disco will live forever! napkinz Sep 2014 #35

Rock is not dead, there are still rock artists every bit as good as the classic bands of the 70's Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #39

Steven Wilson - excellent choice! Initech Sep 2014 #58

Steven Wilson is an amazing talent that deserves far more recognition than he gets Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #64

I'm a huge Steven Wilson / Porcupine Tree fan. Initech Sep 2014 #67

I would have loved to see that show, Opeth is a great band too Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #69

Opeth's new album is amazing. Initech Sep 2014 #74

May I humbly add DonCoquixote Sep 2014 #81

WTF? How can he say that? Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #41

I stopped listening to Rock and Roll around 1979... Johnny Noshoes Sep 2014 #43

I love smooth jazz loyalsister Sep 2014 #49

Discovering John Coltrane was one of the Codeine Sep 2014 #95

I didn't rock Sep 2014 #50

DUzy lovemydog Sep 2014 #102

It's dead because of ignorant people like Gene Simmons Shankapotomus Sep 2014 #52

Funny that. 2 years ago he was singing a different tune n2doc Sep 2014 #55

Har fucking har. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #82

The Pixies lovemydog Sep 2014 #104

As long as I am alive it won't be dead to me. riverbendviewgal Sep 2014 #56

I watched the 3 1/2 hour director's cut of the Woodstock film several years ago. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #91

I blame MTV for this too. Image is everything now. arcane1 Sep 2014 #57

You can't be above the rest without the discipline to practice 5< hrs a day 5< days a week. L0oniX Sep 2014 #61

Rock's not dead, it's only sleeping. BillZBubb Sep 2014 #65

Looks Like Dirty Socialist Sep 2014 #66

He'd complain any way, so no loss, lol. lovemydog Sep 2014 #107

Yes Dirty Socialist Sep 2014 #115

If you can still smell what he's cooking TlalocW Sep 2014 #70

Rock isn't dead, it is just recycling itself over and over and over ... for 40 years ... kwassa Sep 2014 #72

Well done analysis Tom Ripley Sep 2014 #75

Thank you. kwassa Sep 2014 #76

The 70s were when you had a whole generation that had grown up listening to rock. cemaphonic Sep 2014 #159

Most of the creativity in rock took place during the '60s ... kwassa Sep 2014 #161

They said Rock was dead when four marginally talented rockers put on platform boots... Iggo Sep 2014 #77

JROCK IS ALIVE AND WELL in JAPAN!!! yuiyoshida Sep 2014 #78

Argh, X Japan is playing Madison Square Garden in October. Initech Sep 2014 #99

Just to hear them do yuiyoshida Sep 2014 #108

I seriously hope they play Staples Center or the Forum soon. Initech Sep 2014 #122

Hey, that video cut off Kurenai! :) LeftOfSelf-Centered Sep 2014 #138

The video did cut it off but yuiyoshida Sep 2014 #172

Rock is dead? calimary Sep 2014 #79

The Warp Tour! Which one is your son? panader0 Sep 2014 #116

The vocalist. He leaves the stage with his wireless mic, every show, and goes out into the crowd. calimary Sep 2014 #125

Post a track here if you can calimary! lovemydog Sep 2014 #149

Video of the title track of their most recent album: calimary Sep 2014 #150

Oh damn that's awesome! lovemydog Sep 2014 #162

It WAS a riot to make. Dear God. There was one sequence in which the blond kid calimary Sep 2014 #166

Yeah I figured they have a good fan base lovemydog Sep 2014 #170

I knew KISS sucked in 1976 Warren DeMontague Sep 2014 #83

+ 1 loyalsister Sep 2014 #84

Mainstream music nowadays is pretty hopeless, admittedly. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #92

True, but that's been the case for ages bhikkhu Sep 2014 #96

There's lots of great stuff out there if you look for it. Initech Sep 2014 #101

you said it: lots and lots and lots KatyMan Sep 2014 #114

I guess most of those are relatively mainstream, though not exactly Top 40. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #127

I listen to a wide variety of stuff. Initech Sep 2014 #140

Having listened to underground metal for half my life, I'm pretty well used to my friends nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #141

At least a couple of my friends have similar taste in metal that I do. Initech Sep 2014 #151

I love me some death/black/doom/sludge metal. The more extreme the better. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #158

My dad doesn't think it's music if it was recorded after 1973. Initech Sep 2014 #164

And I don't think it's music if it consists solely of distorted synth feedback. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #165

I suspect that William Bennett of Whitehouse... Tom Ripley Sep 2014 #168

I would have to agree with that assessment. Some of the stuff is a downright hilarious listen. n/t nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #171

I don't think drum machines should be allowed to be called "music". Initech Sep 2014 #169

Ah yes, Gene Simmons...the Voice of Integrity himself... Ken Burch Sep 2014 #110

I prefer Dwid Hellion... the voice of Integrity... nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #146

Now THAT'd be an epic "ring tone". Ken Burch Sep 2014 #156

Integrity are definitely one of the better "heavier music" bands of the past couple decades. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #160

Gene Simmons is an idiot. KISS is a joke. Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2014 #111

No, he's right, in part. Orsino Sep 2014 #113

That's not what he's saying though sweetloukillbot Sep 2014 #163

Nothing will stop someone who has the music in them. logosoco Sep 2014 #117

Simmons isn't much different than Sarah Palin. Avalux Sep 2014 #118

Gene Simmons is a reprehensible human being. alarimer Sep 2014 #119

KISS isn't rock music. It's rudimentary shit that has similarities to rock music. Throd Sep 2014 #121

He is so full of shit, of COURSE they will pay you to play rock and roll! Rex Sep 2014 #123

Welcome to the 21st century Gene. Where you actually have to go out and work SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #128

Vintage Trouble are criminally unknown Tom Ripley Sep 2014 #133

I thought you were talking about the quasi-Christian doom metal band Trouble... nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #143

Rock isn't dead; most of the better stuff is underground, just like with rap. nt Jamaal510 Sep 2014 #129

Sean Price and Ill Bill are two of my favorite rappers nowadays. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #144

I'll have to check them out sometime, for sure. eom Jamaal510 Sep 2014 #153

I agree Jamaal510. lovemydog Sep 2014 #147

I have several ways of doing my digging: Jamaal510 Sep 2014 #152

YouTube, Spotify, Bandcamp are the big ones for me. I've found all kinds of random bands nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #155

What really killed rock & roll was that the music industry got lazy Yavin4 Sep 2014 #136

Here's Pitchfork's opinionated list of top 100 albums 2010-2014: lovemydog Sep 2014 #142

I am sure my feelings have been expressed in here by someone. rurallib Sep 2014 #154

Tough talk from a half-baked novelty act. FSogol Sep 2014 #175

^^ This loyalsister Sep 2014 #176