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87. Interesting anecdote.

Sun Sep 7, 2014, 03:05 PM

Sep 2014

I'll agree on the Drano-remedy.

Here's another query for you: Do you know if I have an understanding of "desperation"? Perhaps I'm an EMT, or a cop, or fire/rescue. Maybe I've seen things you can't even imagine. I've made no secret that I'm an infantry combat vet from Viet Nam. Do you think I might have witnessed some desperation there?

+, you haven't answered my pointed question, i'll repeat it with the addition of the restrictions you labor under: Would you give your child "pills" obtained from someone willing to circumvent International Law to supply you with "pills"? Pills with an unknown provenance from a criminal, pills that could be anything....

Answer directly, please. Either you would be willing to feed YOUR child pills from a highly unreliable source, or you wouldn't. That's a simple "Yes" or "No" question. Surely someone with your experience of desperation can answer such a simple question.

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For those of you wondering why they didn't use Planned Parenthood for their abortion [View all] xmas74 Sep 2014 OP

This is an important post. brer cat Sep 2014 #1

I saw a Drano douche 23 years ago. xmas74 Sep 2014 #2

And it will happen more often if the so-called "pro-life" bunch gets their way. Arkansas Granny Sep 2014 #4

You're one of the bordering states. xmas74 Sep 2014 #6

Yep. Arkansas passed some very restrictive measure on abortion that have been put on hold Arkansas Granny Sep 2014 #21

I hope it happens here. xmas74 Sep 2014 #29

Oddly enough they always seem to make exceptions for their own daughters who "get in trouble" Jester Messiah Sep 2014 #158

The RW shame-o-sphere has so misled their constituents... Wounded Bear Sep 2014 #3

Look through the link I provided above xmas74 Sep 2014 #5

I, too have a daughter... Wounded Bear Sep 2014 #8

Same here xmas74 Sep 2014 #9

I have 2 daughters and we live in Ohio rbrnmw Sep 2014 #38

Likewise. And because of crap organization, it looks like Dems will lose again. riqster Sep 2014 #41

yep 4 more years of Kasuck rbrnmw Sep 2014 #42

It's just job security for Redfern. Ohio's Dem party sucks. riqster Sep 2014 #105

The laws here are the same. xmas74 Sep 2014 #45

back in the days of coathangers mopinko Sep 2014 #7

She did the best she could with a crappy situation. xmas74 Sep 2014 #10

i just wanna scream, tho. shit. mopinko Sep 2014 #11

Same here. xmas74 Sep 2014 #13

yeah, instead of laws requiring admitting privileges for clinic docs how bout mopinko Sep 2014 #27

A midwife could perform a low risk abortion xmas74 Sep 2014 #61

you got that. especially mopinko Sep 2014 #122

I suspect some still do it xmas74 Sep 2014 #139

Not necessarily. Ms. Toad Sep 2014 #146

I do forget about that sometimes. xmas74 Sep 2014 #150

We attended prenatal classes with a lay midwife & Ms. Toad Sep 2014 #151

Those are the only lay midwives I know of in my area xmas74 Sep 2014 #152

There are actually two groups around here Ms. Toad Sep 2014 #153

I'm in Missouri xmas74 Sep 2014 #160

my docs had a solid foundation in the orthodox jewish community. mopinko Sep 2014 #156

Even if you have insurance, using insurance can be risky if your employer finds out. greatlaurel Sep 2014 #12

Yep. xmas74 Sep 2014 #14

Employers do NOT legally know what procedures are being use. Ms. Toad Sep 2014 #148

K&R BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #15

Yet so few are. xmas74 Sep 2014 #16

The anti-abortion campaign is a huge win for the right BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #19

You said it better than I ever could. xmas74 Sep 2014 #25

Or me. Absolutely. I seriously fear our rights are on the ropes. calimary Sep 2014 #157

We need to fight hard to undo all of the draconian measures the Republicans have gotten passed davidpdx Sep 2014 #64

That thread is a privileged peoples' parade of ignorance Small Accumulates Sep 2014 #17

As does mine. xmas74 Sep 2014 #18

A rec for both of your posts BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #20

You also realize that the mother in the other thread will now never be able to work in her field xmas74 Sep 2014 #26

Just awful BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #36

It's a mess she'll never be able xmas74 Sep 2014 #40

My attempt to educated resulted in being told I was too emotional kcr Sep 2014 #104

Too many people think that abortion will never effect them BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #133

+1 gollygee Sep 2014 #33

In my state (California) PP would do it on site within a week and the state would pay for it. LeftyMom Sep 2014 #22

I wish! xmas74 Sep 2014 #28

Abortion rights actually expanded here legally this year. LeftyMom Sep 2014 #32

We have regular protestors at my local PP xmas74 Sep 2014 #35

LMAO! "Whenever I have a really bad day I sometimes drive over and challenge the protestors." beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #44

I've invited a few in for my pap smear xmas74 Sep 2014 #52

"That day I was scared, now I argue back." beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #56

Vaginas frighten them. xmas74 Sep 2014 #57

That's one of the worst things about closing clinics, beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #63

Our local health department doesn't offer those services at all. xmas74 Sep 2014 #65

They don't advertise it here, it's not even listed in the phone book. beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #70

Awful. xmas74 Sep 2014 #76

Those women were some of the most courageous and dedicated medical professionals I've ever met. beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #112

They did everything they could. xmas74 Sep 2014 #116

Thank you for making these points suffragette Sep 2014 #23

Several years ago I was switched to a dose xmas74 Sep 2014 #30

Sad you had to go through that suffragette Sep 2014 #50

Thanks. xmas74 Sep 2014 #54

Kick, kick, kick!!! Heidi Sep 2014 #24

Thank you nt xmas74 Sep 2014 #31

Hug, hug, hug suffragette Sep 2014 #51

Mail order abortion may become the methodolgy of the future avebury Sep 2014 #34

Mail order would certainly be easier than xmas74 Sep 2014 #46

Sure it's easier, but at what cost? Avalux Sep 2014 #60

Then why not make it more readily available? xmas74 Sep 2014 #62

Now you're making sense. Avalux Sep 2014 #67

Access would be good xmas74 Sep 2014 #69

I'd take the time off work and make the drive. Avalux Sep 2014 #74

I've worked in nursing homes. xmas74 Sep 2014 #75

A job is not worth a child's safety. n/t Avalux Sep 2014 #77

When it might be the only place in the area xmas74 Sep 2014 #80

sounds more like the state endangered the child's life questionseverything Sep 2014 #106

It would also make it a lot more difficult avebury Sep 2014 #91

Their worst nightmare, eh? beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #94

I guess they could protest the post office. xmas74 Sep 2014 #98

Thanks for posting this link... mtngirl47 Sep 2014 #144

It's beyond disgusting MaggieD Sep 2014 #37

It is. xmas74 Sep 2014 #47

And that's why we have the NNAF. eggplant Sep 2014 #39

When I can, xmas74 Sep 2014 #48

I half expected to see the term "abortion on demand" in that thread. beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #43

It's a disturbing trend xmas74 Sep 2014 #49

At least two in-state: Feral Child Sep 2014 #53

What are you talking about? xmas74 Sep 2014 #55

! beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #58

I'd still love to know what he's talking about. xmas74 Sep 2014 #59

Probably busy googling for more information to prove PP clinics are located on every street corner beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #66

I can get a lollypop when I join the Abortion of the Month Club? xmas74 Sep 2014 #78

I almost died from mine. beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #83

When I was 16 I was in the locker room when a girl xmas74 Sep 2014 #86

Until the privileged in our party are willing to get a clue nothing will ever change. beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #90

PM sent. xmas74 Sep 2014 #96

No need to be snippy. Feral Child Sep 2014 #68

I wasn't being snippy by any means. xmas74 Sep 2014 #71

Interesting anecdote. Feral Child Sep 2014 #87

You never asked me what I did for a living. xmas74 Sep 2014 #93

Charges were brought because she endangered a child. Feral Child Sep 2014 #108

Question is did she know that it was illegal to purchase over the internet? xmas74 Sep 2014 #110

"Ignorance" is never an acceptable defense. Feral Child Sep 2014 #120

"Ignorance" is never an acceptable defense beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #130

There is no evidence that the pills Live and Learn Sep 2014 #128

Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #131

That is ridiculous. Just because something is illegal here doesn't Live and Learn Sep 2014 #135

Did you notice the reply has been hidden now? xmas74 Sep 2014 #136

No, I didn't. Thanks for the update. nt Live and Learn Sep 2014 #137

None of those facilities are anywhere near where this woman and her daughter live Beaverhausen Sep 2014 #73

Yes, I understand basic geography. Feral Child Sep 2014 #81

Mass Transit between cities, yes. They live in a tiny town in the middle of nowhere Beaverhausen Sep 2014 #84

So you are unwilling to take a direct stance. Feral Child Sep 2014 #92

"I think you're arguing from an emotional stance, defending any and all abortions" beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #99

She doesn't want her punished Feral Child Sep 2014 #113

Not wanting her jailed and her child in state custody is NOT the same thing as "excusing" her beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #127

It was only a matter of time before that got suffragette Sep 2014 #115

Same poster referred to me as "snippy" earlier. xmas74 Sep 2014 #134

Yep: snippy, silly, emotional, militant. suffragette Sep 2014 #147

Exactly. xmas74 Sep 2014 #149

No kidding, lol! beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #140

Of course, he hasn't figured it out yet xmas74 Sep 2014 #141

That's for sure. And it didn't take long for that poster to to resort to all the usual tells. suffragette Sep 2014 #155

You don't know anything about me Beaverhausen Sep 2014 #142

What would you be willing to do if YOU were pregnant, poor and desperate? beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #88

Why, without research? Feral Child Sep 2014 #102

Yes, sunshine, without research. beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #107

I didn't question any woman's motivation. Feral Child Sep 2014 #129

You accused one poster of "excusing" the mother beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #138

Judging the action without knowledge of motivation is a fool's errand. Defending it as such is merel LanternWaste Sep 2014 #178

Thank you, LanternWaste. beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #212

I stopped arguing with him after a while. xmas74 Sep 2014 #213

Mass transit may be available in the NE xmas74 Sep 2014 #89

Ok, that's a definite difficulty. Feral Child Sep 2014 #95

Would I? No. xmas74 Sep 2014 #101

So do desperate men. Feral Child Sep 2014 #117

No man, no matter HOW desperate, will ever be forced to give birth to a child against his will. beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #145

+1000 nt laundry_queen Sep 2014 #159

This is the future created by chipping away at Ilsa Sep 2014 #72

There are a few in this thread stating that she xmas74 Sep 2014 #79

She probably didn't know enough to Ilsa Sep 2014 #82

That's what I've been trying to explain. xmas74 Sep 2014 #85

Bad decison by mom, could kill her daughter SonofMarx Sep 2014 #97

The nearest abortion clinic was 75 miles away. They were poor. How were they pnwmom Sep 2014 #100

I trust results-rest my case SonofMarx Sep 2014 #163

Even if she had gotten the prescription from a doctor, pnwmom Sep 2014 #165

Your assertion is not true SonofMarx Sep 2014 #167

What isn't true? She's fine now and isn't pregnant. Prove otherwise. n/t pnwmom Sep 2014 #168

I already proved you made it up. SonofMarx Sep 2014 #169

I would have taken my daughter to Planned Parenthood, if she'd asked me, and they'd pnwmom Sep 2014 #170

If you look at this site out of the Netherlands xmas74 Sep 2014 #205

I've had that exact pill. xmas74 Sep 2014 #173

I've been given that pill gollygee Sep 2014 #175

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Actually, yes, she would have had cramps. xmas74 Sep 2014 #204

Did she know this? xmas74 Sep 2014 #103

I would not let a loved one do it. SonofMarx Sep 2014 #164

Cytotec xmas74 Sep 2014 #172

You wouldn't let a loved one have any abortion. So what? pnwmom Sep 2014 #208

According to the PP site xmas74 Sep 2014 #214

Thanks to the lack of affordable legal options her daughter could have died. beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #111

The premise of your question does not follow SonofMarx Sep 2014 #166

Once again, I've had it, xmas74 Sep 2014 #174

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There's a risk no matter what here gollygee Sep 2014 #182

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Irrelevant gollygee Sep 2014 #187

So much fail. Agschmid Sep 2014 #196

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Actually, there are sites that offer a doctor's consult xmas74 Sep 2014 #201

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This is what happens when people curtail abortion rights by making them more difficult gollygee Sep 2014 #143

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This is what DOES happen when abortion rights are curtailed. uppityperson Sep 2014 #185

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Indeed I do. I have spent most of my adult professional life working and volunteering with women's uppityperson Sep 2014 #188

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Not debatable. I HAVE spent most of my adult professional life working/volunteering in women's uppityperson Sep 2014 #192

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You tell me I am lying about my working with women's health care and give me permission to uppityperson Sep 2014 #194

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Why do you not answer the questions? They are simple to answer and part of the discussion. uppityperson Sep 2014 #198

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I am waiting for your answers. uppityperson Sep 2014 #200

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Do you deny limitation of reproductive health care leads to potentially unsafe actions? uppityperson Sep 2014 #191

What was going on in this entire subthread? xmas74 Sep 2014 #209

SonofMarx did not agree that limiting reproductive health issues led to unsafe actions. uppityperson Sep 2014 #210

There was another person in the thread who xmas74 Sep 2014 #211

Sorry if I missed it marym625 Sep 2014 #109

Yep xmas74 Sep 2014 #118

The right-wing replies to that thread Le Taz Hot Sep 2014 #114

There are right wing comments on this thread. xmas74 Sep 2014 #119

I saw them. Le Taz Hot Sep 2014 #123

Geez Louise. xmas74 Sep 2014 #124

Yeah, one of the others Le Taz Hot Sep 2014 #126

Someone referred to me as "snippy" in this thread. xmas74 Sep 2014 #132

Misoprostol OldRedneck Sep 2014 #121

I was given Cytotec to induce my labor nearly fifteen years ago. xmas74 Sep 2014 #125

I used available herbs handmade34 Sep 2014 #154

I received cytotec in the hospital to induce xmas74 Sep 2014 #161

I can't even believe you have to post this here on DU. liberalmuse Sep 2014 #162

It's crazy, isn't it? xmas74 Sep 2014 #197

100 recs! beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #171

Flattering but xmas74 Sep 2014 #179

So true & so sad! Paka Sep 2014 #176

What's sad is that we still have to argue and fight for this. xmas74 Sep 2014 #203

K&R libodem Sep 2014 #177

The absent are always the most interesting one xmas74 Sep 2014 #206