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161. Most of the creativity in rock took place during the '60s ...

Sun Sep 7, 2014, 09:57 PM

Sep 2014

much of it before it became big business and commercial pressures narrowed the field. Music artists were experimenting with all kinds of things because that was the ethos of that time, and there wasn't big money involved. The first FM radio stations were pretty free-form, not programmed by orders from above.

I am old enough to have lived through the before and after; the turning point was Woodstock, which I attended, when everyone immediately realized the immense draw this music had. After this rock gradually moved into stadiums.

and even in the 70s there were all kinds of lingering influences that were not rock, but came from the interests in the '60s about blues, folk music traditions from the US and other countries, some jazz influences. Some of that is turning up now in different bands, but this is also recycling.

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Who said “Rock is finally dead” ? [View all] loyalsister Sep 2014 OP

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and taylor swift to country JI7 Sep 2014 #4

What listeners? AngryAmish Sep 2014 #7

Saw Floyd 3 times Cartoonist Sep 2014 #21

whoosh AngryAmish Sep 2014 #23

Serious question re All In The Family AngryAmish Sep 2014 #30

"You're totally elitist....you think you're the under appreciated scholars.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2014 #60

Going to see Tom Petty in a few weeks myself! Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2014 #63

Great blue-eyed soul singer too (Winwood, that is). nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #87

Oh yeah! Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2014 #103

This might be heresy to some, but generally I enjoy the white boy blues-rock as much as the original nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #130

That's cool. Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2014 #145

Yeah, there's always been a great deal of cross-pollination between "white" and "black" music. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #148

I'm 29 and I've listened to Tom Petty since I was about 4. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #86

I also use the Glenn Miller analogy, but in regards to Ramones t-shirts and other punk nostalgia... Tom Ripley Sep 2014 #73

Why shouldn't they? Does good music have an expiration date? nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #88

Delete: dupe post Tom Ripley Sep 2014 #93

No, good music does not have an expiration date... Tom Ripley Sep 2014 #94

"I just find the use of forty year old artifacts to be signifiers of cutting edge rebellion to be nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #126

I'm guilty of it also... Tom Ripley Sep 2014 #135

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People still listen to Glenn Miller--he's one of my favorites. Good music is good music. MADem Sep 2014 #90

My mom told me she cried when Glenn Miller died. lovemydog Sep 2014 #105

If forced to listen to big band, I would probably go with Miller. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #131

When Miller was popular, Lombardo was still a fuddy-duddy! MADem Sep 2014 #134

I don't get much exposure to that kind of music. So thanks for the tunes. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #137

I love music....!! ANY kind of music...!!! MADem Sep 2014 #139

Archie wasn't an object of mirth because of his age. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #112

Untrue, I am 55 and still curious about treestar Sep 2014 #62

^^^THIS^^^ Tom Ripley Sep 2014 #71

Surprised you'd say your rock fandom was exclusionary and follow with... mattclearing Sep 2014 #109

They're not horrible so much as incredibly bland. I think that actually irritates some people more. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #167

That, I can understand. mattclearing Sep 2014 #173

Yeah, some of the earlier stuff - before they became multimillionaires and snorted mountains of coke nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #174

I think that's true loyalsister Sep 2014 #11

I stream this to the pool. Go Vols Sep 2014 #100

+100! zappaman Sep 2014 #12

I agree that consolidation killed RADIO, but it did not kill music. alarimer Sep 2014 #120

My music-listening life has been considerably happier since I discovered Spotify a couple years ago. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #132

In the words of Public Enemy... derby378 Sep 2014 #124

"A truly committed brilliant musician will find a way." Laelth Sep 2014 #2

I suspect there are a lot of people who have it completely backwards driving this loyalsister Sep 2014 #25

Mozart died a pauper because he was terrible with money. cemaphonic Sep 2014 #157

but there ARE a lot of musicians out there making good music and having a good time JI7 Sep 2014 #3

I've discovered a host of good music at some Starbucks stores. randome Sep 2014 #8

Well,Pete Townshend said it first sufrommich Sep 2014 #5

I miss Keith Moon n/t 8 track mind Sep 2014 #15

So do I.I know it sounds silly now that I'm 57 years old, sufrommich Sep 2014 #17

i was born shortly after he died but have seen videos JI7 Sep 2014 #54

Thanks for that!! loyalsister Sep 2014 #18

I've seen The Who 5 times in my life. sufrommich Sep 2014 #20

Twice here. lovemydog Sep 2014 #46

I sometimes think I was born too late! loyalsister Sep 2014 #53

It's really fun making musical connections, like a family tree. lovemydog Sep 2014 #59

One of my all time favorite songs loyalsister Sep 2014 #68

Seriously!! Initech Sep 2014 #98

When somebody tells me they like KISS, I immediately discount anything they have to say alcibiades_mystery Sep 2014 #6

yes, aren't they like that thomas kincaid guy who was more a business person than artist ? JI7 Sep 2014 #9

I agree. The first album my son ever bought was a sufrommich Sep 2014 #10

KISS was the white prole guy flipside of disco AngryAmish Sep 2014 #13

MY BIL has a bunch of kiss ornaments and toys loyalsister Sep 2014 #16

Gene Simmons is an idiot and an asshole. hifiguy Sep 2014 #14

plus a thousand LuvNewcastle Sep 2014 #22

+1 n/t Bonhomme Richard Sep 2014 #27

What does that clown know about Rock? johnp3907 Sep 2014 #19

"thanks to digital technology, i can carry as much rock n roll with me as i want" 8 track mind Sep 2014 #24

this will make you feel old ... napkinz Sep 2014 #26

my older brother got 8 track mind Sep 2014 #33

Hilarious Kalidurga Sep 2014 #36

I love those! loyalsister Sep 2014 #80

AWESOME!! loyalsister Sep 2014 #31

Frampton Comes Alive? Bob Seger? BTO?? Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2014 #106

I always enjoyed competent bar bands in small venues Warpy Sep 2014 #28

Who the fuck gives a shit what Gene Simmons has to say about anything RedCappedBandit Sep 2014 #29

good point loyalsister Sep 2014 #34

Seriously he's a marketer who plays a rock musician. Initech Sep 2014 #44

Don't forget 'Louder Than Love.' That actually might be my favorite of theirs. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #89

Good choice, I think Rusty Cage is probably my favorite Soundgarden song. Initech Sep 2014 #97

Google Steve Perry La 2014 rbrnmw Sep 2014 #32

Thanks! That was awesome loyalsister Sep 2014 #37

can you link Steve Perry? rbrnmw Sep 2014 #38

Here ya go loyalsister Sep 2014 #42

thanks rbrnmw Sep 2014 #45

I'll have to look for more loyalsister Sep 2014 #47

I hate how they dismiss true talent on those shows rbrnmw Sep 2014 #48

No joke loyalsister Sep 2014 #51

awesome I love the Boss rbrnmw Sep 2014 #40

Disco will live forever! napkinz Sep 2014 #35

Rock is not dead, there are still rock artists every bit as good as the classic bands of the 70's Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #39

Steven Wilson - excellent choice! Initech Sep 2014 #58

Steven Wilson is an amazing talent that deserves far more recognition than he gets Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #64

I'm a huge Steven Wilson / Porcupine Tree fan. Initech Sep 2014 #67

I would have loved to see that show, Opeth is a great band too Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #69

Opeth's new album is amazing. Initech Sep 2014 #74

May I humbly add DonCoquixote Sep 2014 #81

WTF? How can he say that? Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #41

I stopped listening to Rock and Roll around 1979... Johnny Noshoes Sep 2014 #43

I love smooth jazz loyalsister Sep 2014 #49

Discovering John Coltrane was one of the Codeine Sep 2014 #95

I didn't rock Sep 2014 #50

DUzy lovemydog Sep 2014 #102

It's dead because of ignorant people like Gene Simmons Shankapotomus Sep 2014 #52

Funny that. 2 years ago he was singing a different tune n2doc Sep 2014 #55

Har fucking har. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #82

The Pixies lovemydog Sep 2014 #104

As long as I am alive it won't be dead to me. riverbendviewgal Sep 2014 #56

I watched the 3 1/2 hour director's cut of the Woodstock film several years ago. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #91

I blame MTV for this too. Image is everything now. arcane1 Sep 2014 #57

You can't be above the rest without the discipline to practice 5< hrs a day 5< days a week. L0oniX Sep 2014 #61

Rock's not dead, it's only sleeping. BillZBubb Sep 2014 #65

Looks Like Dirty Socialist Sep 2014 #66

He'd complain any way, so no loss, lol. lovemydog Sep 2014 #107

Yes Dirty Socialist Sep 2014 #115

If you can still smell what he's cooking TlalocW Sep 2014 #70

Rock isn't dead, it is just recycling itself over and over and over ... for 40 years ... kwassa Sep 2014 #72

Well done analysis Tom Ripley Sep 2014 #75

Thank you. kwassa Sep 2014 #76

The 70s were when you had a whole generation that had grown up listening to rock. cemaphonic Sep 2014 #159

Most of the creativity in rock took place during the '60s ... kwassa Sep 2014 #161

They said Rock was dead when four marginally talented rockers put on platform boots... Iggo Sep 2014 #77

JROCK IS ALIVE AND WELL in JAPAN!!! yuiyoshida Sep 2014 #78

Argh, X Japan is playing Madison Square Garden in October. Initech Sep 2014 #99

Just to hear them do yuiyoshida Sep 2014 #108

I seriously hope they play Staples Center or the Forum soon. Initech Sep 2014 #122

Hey, that video cut off Kurenai! :) LeftOfSelf-Centered Sep 2014 #138

The video did cut it off but yuiyoshida Sep 2014 #172

Rock is dead? calimary Sep 2014 #79

The Warp Tour! Which one is your son? panader0 Sep 2014 #116

The vocalist. He leaves the stage with his wireless mic, every show, and goes out into the crowd. calimary Sep 2014 #125

Post a track here if you can calimary! lovemydog Sep 2014 #149

Video of the title track of their most recent album: calimary Sep 2014 #150

Oh damn that's awesome! lovemydog Sep 2014 #162

It WAS a riot to make. Dear God. There was one sequence in which the blond kid calimary Sep 2014 #166

Yeah I figured they have a good fan base lovemydog Sep 2014 #170

I knew KISS sucked in 1976 Warren DeMontague Sep 2014 #83

+ 1 loyalsister Sep 2014 #84

Mainstream music nowadays is pretty hopeless, admittedly. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #92

True, but that's been the case for ages bhikkhu Sep 2014 #96

There's lots of great stuff out there if you look for it. Initech Sep 2014 #101

you said it: lots and lots and lots KatyMan Sep 2014 #114

I guess most of those are relatively mainstream, though not exactly Top 40. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #127

I listen to a wide variety of stuff. Initech Sep 2014 #140

Having listened to underground metal for half my life, I'm pretty well used to my friends nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #141

At least a couple of my friends have similar taste in metal that I do. Initech Sep 2014 #151

I love me some death/black/doom/sludge metal. The more extreme the better. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #158

My dad doesn't think it's music if it was recorded after 1973. Initech Sep 2014 #164

And I don't think it's music if it consists solely of distorted synth feedback. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #165

I suspect that William Bennett of Whitehouse... Tom Ripley Sep 2014 #168

I would have to agree with that assessment. Some of the stuff is a downright hilarious listen. n/t nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #171

I don't think drum machines should be allowed to be called "music". Initech Sep 2014 #169

Ah yes, Gene Simmons...the Voice of Integrity himself... Ken Burch Sep 2014 #110

I prefer Dwid Hellion... the voice of Integrity... nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #146

Now THAT'd be an epic "ring tone". Ken Burch Sep 2014 #156

Integrity are definitely one of the better "heavier music" bands of the past couple decades. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #160

Gene Simmons is an idiot. KISS is a joke. Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2014 #111

No, he's right, in part. Orsino Sep 2014 #113

That's not what he's saying though sweetloukillbot Sep 2014 #163

Nothing will stop someone who has the music in them. logosoco Sep 2014 #117

Simmons isn't much different than Sarah Palin. Avalux Sep 2014 #118

Gene Simmons is a reprehensible human being. alarimer Sep 2014 #119

KISS isn't rock music. It's rudimentary shit that has similarities to rock music. Throd Sep 2014 #121

He is so full of shit, of COURSE they will pay you to play rock and roll! Rex Sep 2014 #123

Welcome to the 21st century Gene. Where you actually have to go out and work SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #128

Vintage Trouble are criminally unknown Tom Ripley Sep 2014 #133

I thought you were talking about the quasi-Christian doom metal band Trouble... nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #143

Rock isn't dead; most of the better stuff is underground, just like with rap. nt Jamaal510 Sep 2014 #129

Sean Price and Ill Bill are two of my favorite rappers nowadays. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #144

I'll have to check them out sometime, for sure. eom Jamaal510 Sep 2014 #153

I agree Jamaal510. lovemydog Sep 2014 #147

I have several ways of doing my digging: Jamaal510 Sep 2014 #152

YouTube, Spotify, Bandcamp are the big ones for me. I've found all kinds of random bands nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #155

What really killed rock & roll was that the music industry got lazy Yavin4 Sep 2014 #136

Here's Pitchfork's opinionated list of top 100 albums 2010-2014: lovemydog Sep 2014 #142

I am sure my feelings have been expressed in here by someone. rurallib Sep 2014 #154

Tough talk from a half-baked novelty act. FSogol Sep 2014 #175

^^ This loyalsister Sep 2014 #176