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uppityperson

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144. Do you mean this symbol, this writing? Do you know the background or meaning? Link...
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 02:19 AM
Sep 2014
http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-09-04/ever-wonder-what-black-and-white-isis-flag-means
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The white writing that you see at the top of the flag is the first half of an Islamic phrase called the shahada, or declaration of faith, which reads: “There is no god but God, Muhammad is the messenger of God.”

The entire shahada is found on many different flags throughout the Islamic world, including the official state flag of Saudi Arabia. But the appropriation of this phrase by ISIS twists the meaning of the Islamic principle, according to Bloom.

“Their use of this phrase is sending very much the wrong message," he says. "If we all accept that this is what this message means, they are co-opting something that has brought millions of people over thousands of years great comfort and solace and meaning in their lives."

Another appropriated symbol on the flag is the white circle at its center, which contains the second part of the shahada: "Muhammad is the Messenger of God." It’s meant to represent the official seal of the Prophet Muhammad, but Blooms says scholars have long debated what that seal actually looked like....(more)

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Why do you ask? itsrobert Sep 2014 #1
saw a fb post sawdust Sep 2014 #5
There's a set of images going viral, Isis Symbol in Houston Deli. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #7
What you want to bet it is nothing of the sort? BainsBane Sep 2014 #12
No bet, given the circles and sites that are promoting it. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #20
yes this is it sawdust Sep 2014 #14
Do we allow what? Beaverhausen Sep 2014 #24
Allow what?? Quayblue Sep 2014 #27
actually Its no worse than a swasticka sawdust Sep 2014 #29
What?! That's quite a leap you made there. Quayblue Sep 2014 #34
Meh not really says Goodwin's Law. Agschmid Sep 2014 #56
nothing like a nazi comparison to drive home the argument. Quayblue Sep 2014 #71
Swastikas predate the Nazis by hundreds of years. Good grief. Doesn't everyone know that Hitler MADem Sep 2014 #94
wait what? Quayblue Sep 2014 #122
You were the one who talked about "nazi comparison" were you not? MADem Sep 2014 #126
please refer to Godwin's law Quayblue Sep 2014 #178
Or a Confederate battle flag. nt tblue37 Sep 2014 #46
. arcane1 Sep 2014 #76
Results of your Jury Service reorg Sep 2014 #145
At least two of the jurors didn't read for understanding and context. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #182
As someone living in a country where wearing a swastika is illegal reorg Sep 2014 #147
ALLOW??? Warpy Sep 2014 #83
"Allow is here"? Allow what where? Wearing hats or headgear of any sort? What "here"? DU? uppityperson Sep 2014 #139
Do you mean this symbol, this writing? Do you know the background or meaning? Link... uppityperson Sep 2014 #144
Allow what? The shahada? NuclearDem Sep 2014 #173
Exactly! Thank you . The crazies and haters are out in this thread lunasun Sep 2014 #180
and yarmelke wearers? eating palestinian babies fersure. elehhhhna Sep 2014 #198
If I thought right-wing morons could be trusted to recognize the ISIS symbol... Marr Sep 2014 #214
KTRH is a right wing talk station in Houston. Take this "poll" with a grain of salt. nt alp227 Sep 2014 #150
Never mind... yuiyoshida Sep 2014 #163
How can they say "you decide"??? How does anyone in the U.S. LiberalElite Sep 2014 #223
Ask if I could help them. Downwinder Sep 2014 #2
Besides wonder what they're doing wearing one of these on their head? NuclearDem Sep 2014 #3
Perhaps offer him some Advil? BainsBane Sep 2014 #9
Best response of the day! Contrary1 Sep 2014 #25
I guess that means I can't be his biggest fan. Orrex Sep 2014 #28
Bad Orrex! Bad! NuclearDem Sep 2014 #181
HAHAHA laundry_queen Sep 2014 #123
Impulse as well as reaction. Turbineguy Sep 2014 #138
***ROFLSNICKER* Earth Bound Misfit Sep 2014 #164
First off...I don't know what a 'isis/isil/is' looks likes. eom Purveyor Sep 2014 #4
Me either, beyond that I doubt I'd do much. Agschmid Sep 2014 #52
That's even a better point. This is pure flame bait, and I seriously question the motives of the OP still_one Sep 2014 #65
A turbine? BainsBane Sep 2014 #6
Wouldn't his beard get caught in the turbine? hatrack Sep 2014 #8
LOL !!! Damn! LOL! BlueJazz Sep 2014 #16
lulz XemaSab Sep 2014 #19
It would be easier to wear it on the back. kentauros Sep 2014 #33
You first Beaverhausen Sep 2014 #10
I really haven't thought of this sawdust Sep 2014 #23
That wasn't the question in your OP. Those who are not direct and say what they mean says what still_one Sep 2014 #90
Nothing because I try not to commit racist acts. ncjustice80 Sep 2014 #11
Wearing a turbine? That's a person really committed to energy NoGOPZone Sep 2014 #13
LOL!!! Beaverhausen Sep 2014 #21
no question about it, and it is quite efficient still_one Sep 2014 #26
Round up the usual suspect... pinboy3niner Sep 2014 #35
Lol! PasadenaTrudy Sep 2014 #15
Motorhead! Enrique Sep 2014 #17
This happened recently.... ForgoTheConsequence Sep 2014 #18
I would wonder what a Sikh is doing with an ISIS symbol , and why he was wearing a dress that didn't still_one Sep 2014 #22
Come on now BainsBane Sep 2014 #31
I guess I am old school still_one Sep 2014 #41
Why are you folks making such a joke of this sawdust Sep 2014 #37
you saw it on FB, and the link supplied in this thread was from the Washington Times, that says still_one Sep 2014 #43
I'm not saying its a real picture I really don't know sawdust Sep 2014 #45
Let's extrapolate. Because of bush and the invasion of Iraq, ISIS came about. It also destabilized still_one Sep 2014 #50
. . . . and the loud, loud silence grinds on . . . hatrack Sep 2014 #58
sounds like it sawdust Sep 2014 #59
Are they poising a threat? That is planting a bomb etc., then report them to authorities, if not, still_one Sep 2014 #62
that is the parochial view of Americans reorg Sep 2014 #142
What loud silence? What would YOU DO if you saw someone wearing an ISIS symbol? still_one Sep 2014 #63
You don't know if it is real, or the ISIS flag, but are pissed off someone may or may not be wearing uppityperson Sep 2014 #146
I think YOU need to take this thread down. You are having fun, but that kind of thing can come MADem Sep 2014 #128
The OP won't take it down, he is playing some intellectual game, that makes him feel superior still_one Sep 2014 #136
It's racist and offensive. MADem Sep 2014 #154
of course it is. still_one Sep 2014 #187
you folks Skittles Sep 2014 #148
This is why I love yuiyoshida Sep 2014 #165
We are paranoid about foreign men sporting turbines! Skittles Sep 2014 #189
Especially yuiyoshida Sep 2014 #190
May cooler turbine-covered heads prevail!... marzipanni Sep 2014 #201
I get pissed off when people wear the american flag as a decoration. CBGLuthier Sep 2014 #172
This... regnaD kciN Sep 2014 #97
That was my reaction: Huh, one of those very rare Middle Eastern Sikhs emsimon33 Sep 2014 #121
Nothing GitRDun Sep 2014 #30
Why would he be wearing a rotary mechanical device? n/t Avalux Sep 2014 #32
Welcome to DU! zappaman Sep 2014 #36
Buy my food. I go to an arabic grocery store, they have awesome food. Katashi_itto Sep 2014 #38
If I saw someone with a turban and a beard I'd probably assume he was a Sikh? Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #39
I would tackle them and drag them by their beard to the nearest WalMart, LeftyMom Sep 2014 #40
I believe the correct term is al-Inclusive arcane1 Sep 2014 #105
Hey I heard it had 3 stars! Agschmid Sep 2014 #107
. LeftyMom Sep 2014 #114
Best post ever on DU... Earth Bound Misfit Sep 2014 #166
aw man Skittles Sep 2014 #218
I might wave, or say hello. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #42
Ask him if he knew where I could get some hash Tom Ripley Sep 2014 #44
That's the way to detect terrorist cells in the U.S. pinboy3niner Sep 2014 #47
lol Quayblue Sep 2014 #51
And wind turbines... Don't forget those as indicators of terror cells. Agschmid Sep 2014 #55
... Kali Sep 2014 #60
turbans in the west are usually worn by Sikhs, even ISIS itself doesn't usually wear turbans JI7 Sep 2014 #48
maybe that it was a costume by some idiot who thinks all brown people are from the same place JI7 Sep 2014 #49
If he was wearing a turbine The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2014 #53
What does the ISIS symbol look like? Rex Sep 2014 #54
So this was sort of an OP fail... Agschmid Sep 2014 #57
Not for appreciators of turbine humor pinboy3niner Sep 2014 #61
Turbines can be dangerous! Throw them blades 50 miles I tells ya! Rex Sep 2014 #80
They're at the turbine store Oilwellian Sep 2014 #183
I would probably ask where they got their turbine bigwillq Sep 2014 #64
Apparently, ISIS or ISIL has "stolen" the seal of the Prophet.......... PDJane Sep 2014 #66
Thank you sawdust Sep 2014 #69
You are so fucking clever with your tricky wisdom still_one Sep 2014 #82
There it is!!!! Just as Hitler stole the symbol of the Hindus and Native Americans MADem Sep 2014 #116
We will all get through it, we always do. Agschmid Sep 2014 #118
Pardon me for "ruining the fun." MADem Sep 2014 #119
We apparently read quite different DU's... Agschmid Sep 2014 #120
I think this entire thread is garbage. MADem Sep 2014 #124
Did you see people mocking turbans anywhere because I did not. Agschmid Sep 2014 #127
Read the thread. MADem Sep 2014 #129
Well it's a good time I spent my time here taking about mayonnaise then... Agschmid Sep 2014 #130
Please go check the OP's edit history. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #174
This whole thread is not DU's finest hour. nt MADem Sep 2014 #191
Yeah, actually, it is. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #206
Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #175
I wouldn't recognize the symbol anyway. Nice try though. arcane1 Sep 2014 #67
Now those white dudes with face tattoos are some scary shit... Agschmid Sep 2014 #68
For reals BainsBane Sep 2014 #153
Seriously, how the fuck are we supposed to react if we have no clue what it looks like? Rex Sep 2014 #70
watch the news sawdust Sep 2014 #72
So that would be a YES, you have no clue either. Rex Sep 2014 #73
Why don't you tell us what YOU would do? still_one Sep 2014 #75
Because his likely goal... regnaD kciN Sep 2014 #158
maybe, but I think he is playing an "intellectual" mind game to show how "clever" he is still_one Sep 2014 #186
It probably looks like a soccer jersey. arcane1 Sep 2014 #74
Well I have to admit, it would be hard to miss someone wearing a turbine on their head. Rex Sep 2014 #77
I knew it... Agschmid Sep 2014 #79
Well if I see any costumed people at the end of October, I know to blame Obama arcane1 Sep 2014 #108
And Elizabeth Warren I hear it's her fault too. Agschmid Sep 2014 #111
Order my turkey sandwich and eat it. morningfog Sep 2014 #78
Mmmmm turkey... Does that sandwich have bacon? Agschmid Sep 2014 #85
Of course. And extra mayo. morningfog Sep 2014 #88
Ah ha! Extra mayo...just as I thought! Rex Sep 2014 #92
Okay mayo as in mayo... Or miracle whip? Agschmid Sep 2014 #93
MAYO. morningfog Sep 2014 #98
Thank The Lord. Agschmid Sep 2014 #100
Whew...okay crisis adverted, stand down. Rex Sep 2014 #102
For me, the neon "Middle Eastern Person" sign over them would be my first clue. nt pinboy3niner Sep 2014 #81
with the flashing neon arrow pointing at the top of his turbine Quayblue Sep 2014 #91
Well something will have to power the sign! Rex Sep 2014 #95
Well since all these people are from the Middle East I think solar is more efficient to be honest. Agschmid Sep 2014 #103
Now you have me wondering, is there a difference between East and Eastern? Rex Sep 2014 #106
Alien turbines spin on a vertical axis... see Agschmid Sep 2014 #110
I can't imagine wearing one of those into a store, but hey to each their own! Rex Sep 2014 #113
I can think of a couple of friends who might consider wearing PART of it pinboy3niner Sep 2014 #132
That's one of my fave campy movies that I'd forgotten about. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #207
Cool turbine!!! steelsmith Sep 2014 #176
I would think "At least he's not wearing the Yankees logo" Scootaloo Sep 2014 #84
This is series! I can't believe people are joking around about an anonymous picture on FB! Rex Sep 2014 #86
Don't mock it, it's the only book some people read. Agschmid Sep 2014 #87
DU-ZEEEY! Rex Sep 2014 #89
!!!!! pinboy3niner Sep 2014 #104
Facebook? Amidoinitrite? Scootaloo Sep 2014 #96
Oh shit! Two DU-ZEES that close together gonna cause problems! Rex Sep 2014 #99
Nooooooooooooo...... Agschmid Sep 2014 #101
Don't tase me brony! BainsBane Sep 2014 #143
HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM Skittles Sep 2014 #149
What would you do if you saw an ancient alien Rex Sep 2014 #109
buy a lottery ticket, serious answer, I really want to win the lotto still_one Sep 2014 #112
Thank him for sharing his technology... Agschmid Sep 2014 #115
I liked it better when it was a turbine and a thobe is NOT a dress, more of a robe. uppityperson Sep 2014 #117
There are very few Sikhs in the Middle East emsimon33 Sep 2014 #125
Ignore the person NOLALady Sep 2014 #131
Thank you sawdust Sep 2014 #134
who are YOU to determine who is answering "genuinely or not". still_one Sep 2014 #135
The only way to take his reply is as hilariously ironic pinboy3niner Sep 2014 #140
my guess is he doesn't know how Skittles Sep 2014 #151
On the positive side... pinboy3niner Sep 2014 #156
Is this the thread about sandwiches... Agschmid Sep 2014 #171
yeah and everyone left out the avocado Quayblue Sep 2014 #212
oh this thread quickly became a DU classic Skittles Sep 2014 #221
I am not, he is playing with DU still_one Sep 2014 #188
Ask him where he got it. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #133
IF you saw somebody making propaganda in favor of reorg Sep 2014 #137
I don't know what an Isis symbol looks like Kalidurga Sep 2014 #141
HEY! I saw a guy with suspicious headgear and weird symbols! pinboy3niner Sep 2014 #152
DUzy! tomm2thumbs Sep 2014 #170
Have no idea what the ISIS symbol is treestar Sep 2014 #155
Free Charles Manson Now! NBachers Sep 2014 #157
I see them all the time in Itaewon w/o the ISIS rpannier Sep 2014 #159
You know, I have one simple request... regnaD kciN Sep 2014 #160
I've heard some right-wing chatter about terrorists coming from the "wide-open" southern border... daschess1987 Sep 2014 #161
Because all brown people look the same. baldguy Sep 2014 #167
The odds of running into an idiot malaise Sep 2014 #162
No idea what an Isis symbol looks like gollygee Sep 2014 #168
Invite him/her to church. ileus Sep 2014 #169
I'd ask them cvoogt Sep 2014 #177
In this area of the country I would figure he was following me B Calm Sep 2014 #179
Iraq was a secular state under Saddam. Before Bush &Cheney invaded under false claims lunasun Sep 2014 #184
C'maaawn. SILLY Question. sibelian Sep 2014 #185
The last ME person I dealt with was an Egyptian who was selling me a car last year. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #192
What is an ISIS symbol? Glassunion Sep 2014 #193
google gives me this uppityperson Sep 2014 #194
That looks cool. Glassunion Sep 2014 #195
This message was self-deleted by its author sawdust Sep 2014 #199
maybe this will clear this up sawdust Sep 2014 #200
I posted information upthread for you about that flag. Here... uppityperson Sep 2014 #203
Thank you sawdust Sep 2014 #205
Shoot him on the spot. SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #196
But I thought we were suppose to hate and fear anyone with different clothes or facial hair randys1 Sep 2014 #204
The owner of my neighborhood 7/11 wears a turban and has a beard. dilby Sep 2014 #197
I think it looks like this Skittles Sep 2014 #210
What the hell do Tesla and Edison have to do with this? Glassunion Sep 2014 #219
OK it was black flag Skittles Sep 2014 #222
That's easy enough. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #202
Well being black and all and understanding people are different, underthematrix Sep 2014 #208
Nothing. Now if I saw a jackass walking around with his penis (oops, I mean military grade weapon) madinmaryland Sep 2014 #209
This again??? I would get rid of the facebook friend who shared it. Being in Houston ScreamingMeemie Sep 2014 #211
I would think it quite convenient if terrorists began publicly labelling themselves and DebJ Sep 2014 #213
LMAO Marrah_G Sep 2014 #216
Smile and say hello? Marrah_G Sep 2014 #215
Id take the treat seriesly & cast asparagus on his chartar. NuttyFluffers Sep 2014 #217
ignore them much the same way as i do most fundamentalists? La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #220
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