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181. Yes, what a great father! nt

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The video of Ray Rice punching his fianceé when they were in the elevator: [View all] Are_grits_groceries Sep 2014 OP

kick for visibility tomm2thumbs Sep 2014 #1

Suspended for a year chervilant Sep 2014 #2

He brings money to the NFL. She doesn't improve their bottom line by one thin dime. Hoppy Sep 2014 #7

He by himself brings nothing to the NFL. If he goes to prison the Ravens will replace him before he Doctor_J Sep 2014 #109

Yeah, chervilant Sep 2014 #112

Are you kidding? For something that trivial? hifiguy Sep 2014 #57

at least he didn't smoke pot geek tragedy Sep 2014 #3

Not Sure How The Court System Let Him Off As Lightly ProfessorGAC Sep 2014 #4

This Dorian Gray Sep 2014 #6

"The NFL sucks" City Lights Sep 2014 #21

His then-fiancee married him quickly after his arraignment Blue_Tires Sep 2014 #25

Gordon Should Be ProfessorGAC Sep 2014 #42

The prosecutor could do his job without the wife's testimony. Those videos alone pnwmom Sep 2014 #151

That's What I Was Thinking ProfessorGAC Sep 2014 #192

The extended video, showing his behavior after the punch, pnwmom Sep 2014 #196

I think the bigger factor... gcomeau Sep 2014 #53

the victim doesn't need to "press charges", the state can prosecute anyway. unblock Sep 2014 #104

But they generally don't if the victim doesn't want them to. gcomeau Sep 2014 #105

usually a reluctant victim would avoid the stand entirely. unblock Sep 2014 #106

Especially when the victim in this case married the perpetrator after the incident... -eom gcomeau Sep 2014 #107

i think that certainly makes them less likely to cooperate unblock Sep 2014 #117

When it's as open and shut as this case would be, they can and should. pnwmom Sep 2014 #154

It matters a *great deal* what she would say actually. gcomeau Sep 2014 #161

Why? He knocked her out, on camera. He's guilty of assault. Open and shut case, pnwmom Sep 2014 #162

Unless... gcomeau Sep 2014 #164

That won't happen. pnwmom Sep 2014 #166

Oh really? gcomeau Sep 2014 #171

Think about it -- they were talking to her when she was still groggy from the attack. pnwmom Sep 2014 #172

You just rebutted your own argument. gcomeau Sep 2014 #173

She doesn't have to press charges. The prosecutor can do that all on his own , pnwmom Sep 2014 #153

And she married him! cwydro Sep 2014 #5

She already had a child with him -- they were already bound through that child. n/t pnwmom Sep 2014 #155

Yes, what a great father! nt Logical Sep 2014 #181

K&R! Omaha Steve Sep 2014 #8

Is she still with him?... Helen Borg Sep 2014 #9

Married rpannier Sep 2014 #11

some women will put up with anything for money leftyohiolib Sep 2014 #17

Shut.Up! Are_grits_groceries Sep 2014 #20

It is common for abuse victims to return to their abuser. WHY do they leftyohiolib Sep 2014 #41

Fear is a powerful thing. Skidmore Sep 2014 #48

so then it could be about money leftyohiolib Sep 2014 #69

From everything Skidmore posted, this is the one thing that you decide to pick up on justiceischeap Sep 2014 #86

ok so you know absolutely the reason she's putting up with that and that it's DEFINITELY leftyohiolib Sep 2014 #90

To read your comments, she puts up with it because it's DEFINITELY worth the money justiceischeap Sep 2014 #97

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Welcome to DU! Try the pizza. it's delicious. LadyHawkAZ Sep 2014 #102

Look, finances realistically can play into it and not for the reason I think you are hoping it does. Skidmore Sep 2014 #95

Thank you for sharing your story Tree-Hugger Sep 2014 #159

Thank you for your posts, Skidmore. It's a shame that so many need to be educated pnwmom Sep 2014 #169

You sure want to blame it on her, don't you? She's just a gold digger after his money. pnwmom Sep 2014 #168

Hope they changed. Fear they will get hurt worse if they don't (which often happens), lack of self uppityperson Sep 2014 #133

That's a horrible thing to say. The number one sufrommich Sep 2014 #27

fear of what? leftyohiolib Sep 2014 #40

Gosh I don't know. Death? sufrommich Sep 2014 #49

you think she fears for her life from this football player leftyohiolib Sep 2014 #63

I think the vast majority of domestic abuse victims sufrommich Sep 2014 #71

in this case this is very hi profile she could probably him with out worry leftyohiolib Sep 2014 #77

What's that I hear? sufrommich Sep 2014 #83

touche leftyohiolib Sep 2014 #85

Always at least one feigning ignorance to promote a POV.... LanternWaste Sep 2014 #45

but i was just told leftyohiolib Sep 2014 #55

try empathy. nt shireen Sep 2014 #123

i have empathy leftyohiolib Sep 2014 #125

Actually don't try empathy. JimDandy Sep 2014 #129

sorry, i don't understand shireen Sep 2014 #188

You are correct. JimDandy Sep 2014 #190

Couldn't her ann--- Sep 2014 #187

Anti-choice DUer blames woman for her own abuse. News at 11. nt LeftyMom Sep 2014 #50

She married him and refused to cooperate with authorities davidn3600 Sep 2014 #58

She's not responsible for his behavior and the her living her life isn't a message to anybody. LeftyMom Sep 2014 #67

Well, LeftyMom, that's where you're wrong justiceischeap Sep 2014 #87

She's being a victim wrong. She's supposed to stand up to the enormous, powerful, wealthy, famous LeftyMom Sep 2014 #89

When a victim refuses to cooperate with police, they tend to lose sympathy with people davidn3600 Sep 2014 #91

Abusive relationships are fucked up. This is not news. His behavior is still not her fault. LeftyMom Sep 2014 #92

I love you wellstone dem Sep 2014 #176

Oh, I just felt like sharing the jury results on that post you're responding to. BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2014 #180

Well, thanks for trying. I'm glad somebody sees through the strategic befuddlement. nt LeftyMom Sep 2014 #182

Thank you LeftyMom. lovemydog Sep 2014 #189

They shouldn't -- especially with non-ignorant people. There is a reason so many of the women pnwmom Sep 2014 #131

No one asked for your sympathy BainsBane Sep 2014 #178

You don't think he could have said NewJeffCT Sep 2014 #160

Or that he'd keep their mutual child away from her. LeftyMom Sep 2014 #170

im not anti-choice you can do what you want with your pregnacy leftyohiolib Sep 2014 #66

That's funny, I seem to recall you calling women murderers a few threads back. nt. LeftyMom Sep 2014 #68

yes i think abortion kills but what you do with your pregnancy doesnt affect me leftyohiolib Sep 2014 #75

Yep, your attitude toward women is delightful. LeftyMom Sep 2014 #76

it isnt about her it's about the fact that it's my baby too leftyohiolib Sep 2014 #80

Considering your attitude toward women it's a safe bet you'll never run into this problem! LeftyMom Sep 2014 #81

being 52 and married i think it would be a safe bet leftyohiolib Sep 2014 #99

Be honest about being anti- choice please: geek tragedy Sep 2014 #108

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Grow a uterus and then you can get the final say. Arugula Latte Sep 2014 #120

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Like I said, grow a uterus and you get the final say. Arugula Latte Sep 2014 #126

I dont recognize you as the arbitor of these things. you can express your OPINION on leftyohiolib Sep 2014 #128

Jury results are in: beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #186

better link alp227 Sep 2014 #177

^^^ Wow. nt TBF Sep 2014 #113

With "allies" like this BainsBane Sep 2014 #179

This is blame the victim talk. You don't know why she's still with him. pnwmom Sep 2014 #130

According to comments on tv this pm she was DURHAM D Sep 2014 #137

That is disgusting, if true. I hope the truth comes out. n/t pnwmom Sep 2014 #140

good god fishwax Sep 2014 #157

Beats dying Gormy Cuss Sep 2014 #165

UGH. But men who get their heads bashed in for bucks are heros in our culture. bettyellen Sep 2014 #195

omg... yuiyoshida Sep 2014 #10

Went over to ESPN rpannier Sep 2014 #12

No jail? Will he have to kill her first? I hope he has no firearms. marble falls Sep 2014 #13

If she didn't want to press charges hifiguy Sep 2014 #60

In most places its understood that the crime is filed by the people and the victim becomes a witness marble falls Sep 2014 #116

If - and I say if because I don't know - hifiguy Sep 2014 #118

They don't need her cooperation since there is undeniable evidence about the attack. pnwmom Sep 2014 #150

Horrifying! Thanks for posting and raising awareness. LiberalLoner Sep 2014 #14

Ok not excusing his behavior, however I know this will piss people off Heather MC Sep 2014 #15

Seriously? DURHAM D Sep 2014 #18

If a guy smacked a woman and she laid him out people here would be cheering her snooper2 Sep 2014 #23

You are wrong DURHAM D Sep 2014 #24

What view? He should have been cut for a year and at least probation, I was simply snooper2 Sep 2014 #29

Creative, if unimaginative prophecy of yours... LanternWaste Sep 2014 #47

Afraid that is right treestar Sep 2014 #38

i remember this leftyohiolib Sep 2014 #78

are you mercuryblues Sep 2014 #114

No, that's an unfair characterization treestar Sep 2014 #127

I think that mercuryblues Sep 2014 #135

yep! Heather MC Sep 2014 #143

No. But why does everyone say he hit her first (as TMZ does as well)? joeglow3 Sep 2014 #32

Not what I said at all, thanks for reading Heather MC Sep 2014 #142

Are you serious??? Are_grits_groceries Sep 2014 #22

She married him after that it didn't bother her that much Heather MC Sep 2014 #141

You need to read about domestic violence victims. Are_grits_groceries Sep 2014 #191

How is it Dangerous, I will never encounter these two people in the course of my day Heather MC Sep 2014 #193

you need to read about their relationship Heather MC Sep 2014 #194

As a much stronger opponent, it doesn't matter if she hit him. MH1 Sep 2014 #36

Shame on you n/t 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #46

#NoShame Heather MC Sep 2014 #144

#whyistayed sufrommich Sep 2014 #145

And don't get mouthy either. Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #52

So if a toddler slaps me in a fit of pique, I can go ahead and punch his lights out? Sheldon Cooper Sep 2014 #61

No I am not Heather MC Sep 2014 #146

Sorry Heather, but you couldn't be more wrong. Sheldon Cooper Sep 2014 #149

Ok I am wrong, sure. Heather MC Sep 2014 #167

No, that's exactly what you're doing. nt LeftyMom Sep 2014 #73

Wow, you really are missing the point! nt Logical Sep 2014 #82

"Don't pick fights with people that can hurt you." City Lights Sep 2014 #88

If the video was just her hitting him would it even be news? Heather MC Sep 2014 #148

"Don't wear short skirts to clubs"?!? chervilant Sep 2014 #121

You need to watch the first 30 seconds of this video again justiceischeap Sep 2014 #139

You are a really clueless if you believe that! nt Logical Sep 2014 #183

She married him. good grief. eom LittleGirl Sep 2014 #16

Despicable. Then he just drags her like a sack of potatoes riderinthestorm Sep 2014 #19

He's probably done this more than once,just not on sufrommich Sep 2014 #26

Agreed. And the other guy doesn't even check to make sure she's ok either! riderinthestorm Sep 2014 #28

and a bunch of other guys arrived and just stood DURHAM D Sep 2014 #138

A year? After seeing that video, I would say a lifetime ban (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #30

It's a year before he can apply for reinstatement hughee99 Sep 2014 #184

Go sports! Tsiyu Sep 2014 #31

no one could defend him after seeing that video strawberries Sep 2014 #33

You'd think so. But read this thread. kcr Sep 2014 #37

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2014 #103

To the dip shits defending this guy trumad Sep 2014 #34

It looks like he spit on her by the elevator buttons as well. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2014 #51

If you're an athlete you can get away with almost anything with a tap on the wrist. WI_DEM Sep 2014 #35

He could have killed her. Where was the felony charge? Sunlei Sep 2014 #39

Famous.Athlete. Iggo Sep 2014 #93

I thought that you can charge a spousal abuser without the testimony of the abused Yavin4 Sep 2014 #43

You can in Michigan. I'm not sure every state has that law. sufrommich Sep 2014 #54

Exactly. I thought the same was true for Atlantic City. Yavin4 Sep 2014 #56

Now I'm curious about how widespread this law is. sufrommich Sep 2014 #59

I thought that it was widespread as well. Yavin4 Sep 2014 #62

That is THE biggest plus to that law JimDandy Sep 2014 #134

In Ohio also. jen63 Sep 2014 #197

Re: "He should have gotten suspended for a year." 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #44

Every day men in this country beat up women. NCTraveler Sep 2014 #98

Not much different than the Joe Mixon situation at OU. redstatebluegirl Sep 2014 #64

It is reported that Mixon exboyfil Sep 2014 #74

Yes, that is what I have read. redstatebluegirl Sep 2014 #119

Holy Crap maxrandb Sep 2014 #65

That is unbelievable. Rice should have gone to prison. And now they're married LittleBlue Sep 2014 #70

All the posters blaming her are exactly the people I would have guessed before I opened the thread. LeftyMom Sep 2014 #72

yep... trumad Sep 2014 #79

Word. Iggo Sep 2014 #96

Amen. DURHAM D Sep 2014 #101

IMO Mr Dixon Sep 2014 #84

Ray Rice video’s second horror: Why it never should have been published in the first place Deadbeat Republicans Sep 2014 #94

If nothing else, that video needed to be released Blue_Tires Sep 2014 #132

Celebrity privilege cwydro Sep 2014 #111

For those that may not have seen it, the Ravens have released Rice. justiceischeap Sep 2014 #115

The first video was more than damning enough for me rocktivity Sep 2014 #124

Hideous, heinous, horrific Blue Owl Sep 2014 #136

So why did she marry him? malaise Sep 2014 #147

Maybe she grew up in an abusive household sufrommich Sep 2014 #158

Getting fired and indefinitely suspended is better Generic Brad Sep 2014 #152

How can he not get prison time for this? phil89 Sep 2014 #156

Saw it when I got home from work Ishoutandscream2 Sep 2014 #163

ladies you have been warned. the NFL underthematrix Sep 2014 #174

That's unfair. A lot of players are legitimately nice people and they're all hard workers LeftyMom Sep 2014 #175

From what I understand ann--- Sep 2014 #185