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22. If you went to an engineering school you must have been aware that there were WOMEN there.

Tue Sep 9, 2014, 12:20 PM

Sep 2014

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And they usually married other engineers.

Maybe you went a long time ago. But at MIT, for example, women are almost half of the undergraduates now.

http://wiki.mitadmissions.org/Women_at_MIT

Women make up nearly half of MIT's undergraduate student body and a growing number of its faculty and leaders, including MIT's former President, Susan Hockfield. In 2009-2010, there were 1,916 undergraduate women and 1,916 graduate women studying at MIT, and 213 female faculty.

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In the past 30 years, as society finally began to see that math, science and engineering weren't "just for boys" anymore, MIT has enrolled a skyrocketing number of women students. Gifted young women with a passion for technical subjects have found in MIT an extremely collaborative and supportive educational environment - and they have made it even stronger and more dynamic.

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Obama finalizing plans to have your tech job replaced by foreigners [View all] brentspeak Sep 2014 OP

k&r for labor. n/t Laelth Sep 2014 #1

Hillary has opined on a number of occasions that the poor tech employers just cannot find merrily Sep 2014 #2

Tech employers(poor souls that they are) can't find qualified Americans.. freebrew Sep 2014 #26

Sing it! merrily Sep 2014 #31

you obviously know what you're talking about LittleGirl Sep 2014 #58

I just know what I've experienced... freebrew Sep 2014 #99

Bingo! Scuba Sep 2014 #106

Her class of people hates union workers warrant46 Sep 2014 #30

I would not necessarily put it that way. merrily Sep 2014 #39

Hillary should also be cognizant that earnings by H-1B workers often LEAVE OUR ECONOMY! cascadiance Sep 2014 #77

from what she said, stimulus was not in the forefront of her reasoning. merrily Sep 2014 #79

Oh, I forgot, she just PRETENDS she wants to help the economy recover... cascadiance Sep 2014 #80

Hillary on outsourcing and visas antigop Sep 2014 #155

"Want fries with that?" merrily Sep 2014 #158

In Other words: "Happy Labor Day... here's a big F.U." ChromeFoundry Sep 2014 #3

+1 woo me with science Sep 2014 #6

+2 n/t OhioChick Sep 2014 #27

I wonder if this will get as many rec's as the one last week about his highness's "I'd join a union" Doctor_J Sep 2014 #33

+1 leftstreet Sep 2014 #42

+1000 nt abelenkpe Sep 2014 #43

Awesome !! warrant46 Sep 2014 #44

Yeah but he gave such a pretty Labor Day speech! pa28 Sep 2014 #62

Be reasonable. Don't you know that the whole idea is to equalize salaries across the globe? sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #141

Equalizing salaries across the globe (more equality) would be a good thing. Lowering them would not. pampango Sep 2014 #147

Of course raising the pay rates and equalizing them globally would be the right thing to do. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #149

Maybe its time BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #4

It is pretty much a second-world power with nukes. It actually ballyhoo Sep 2014 #29

We will be leaving the country before long LittleGirl Sep 2014 #59

"Welcome to Sweden"! cascadiance Sep 2014 #78

My grandparents left their country... meaculpa2011 Sep 2014 #114

RARELY on EARTH in any country is there a 2 STEM household ESPECIALLY in the same field... uponit7771 Sep 2014 #5

But there likely will be with this... cascadiance Sep 2014 #8

Are you kidding? BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #9

Got anything empirical? I work in a STEM field... rarely do the spouces have same STEM occupation uponit7771 Sep 2014 #10

Show us the numbers - TBF Sep 2014 #18

If you went to an engineering school you must have been aware that there were WOMEN there. pnwmom Sep 2014 #22

My husband and I are both in the same field abelenkpe Sep 2014 #46

My spouse does Android3.14 Sep 2014 #127

People, your individual experiences...howbeit beautiful are not empirical... out of 3.5 billion work uponit7771 Sep 2014 #148

Your "understanding" has no data at this point Android3.14 Sep 2014 #152

Oh, and try this as a starter Android3.14 Sep 2014 #153

The article doesn't even freakin mention STEM... what the hell are you "hating"?! uponit7771 Sep 2014 #177

There I go again Android3.14 Sep 2014 #179

You couldn't be more wrong. Who do you think most women in STEM fields marry? pnwmom Sep 2014 #19

Yoo Hoo! Over here! Barack_America Sep 2014 #86

"A little HOF" Starry Messenger Sep 2014 #122

Hang on, here's a bit of refutation Android3.14 Sep 2014 #154

Plenty of them in Silicon Valley Retrograde Sep 2014 #176

Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #7

This is about driving wages into the ground BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #11

My brother-in-law had a dry wall hanging business Sopkoviak Sep 2014 #17

Um... BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #25

Cheap Labor Is Cheap Labor TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #48

+1 dreamnightwind Sep 2014 #84

*woosh* SammyWinstonJack Sep 2014 #12

Companies have used H1B visas as form a displacement, that's not in dispute I don't think this is... uponit7771 Sep 2014 #13

It's going to be a far higher lift than what you are predicting, because most of pnwmom Sep 2014 #21

Thaks for expanding the information. n/t truedelphi Sep 2014 #52

How about we take away your computer and give it to some random person on the street. ChromeFoundry Sep 2014 #14

He hates bosses exploiting workers not immigrants Generic Other Sep 2014 #15

We just don't want an uneven playing field and legalized INDENTURED SERVITUDE! cascadiance Sep 2014 #16

Entitled? It's bad enough that we're pushing our young people into STEM fields on the basis pnwmom Sep 2014 #20

So are you saying that Sopkoviak Sep 2014 #23

These "top" STEM workers can usually find jobs in their own countries, which need pnwmom Sep 2014 #38

US tech workers have already had their wages suppressed for years illegally abelenkpe Sep 2014 #37

I work for a software company and we have so many openings for Engineers it's not funny. dilby Sep 2014 #24

What does this mean? Demobrat Sep 2014 #35

Age is not the issue for my company we have all ages. Culturaly we are very progressive and green. dilby Sep 2014 #40

So your company runs on the good kind of stereotype and bias lumberjack_jeff Sep 2014 #50

Most companies have a culture and they prefer to hire those who fit the company culture. dilby Sep 2014 #53

Much like Chick Fil A has a culture. n/t lumberjack_jeff Sep 2014 #81

All companies have them. dilby Sep 2014 #82

So a female gay engineer from the south would or would not be a good fit? Jamastiene Sep 2014 #156

We have southern engineers. dilby Sep 2014 #169

The culture at my local Chick Fil A TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #143

It's discrimination, like it or not! JDPriestly Sep 2014 #137

Interesting because companies who hire bigots, homophobes, misogynists and abusers are regularly dilby Sep 2014 #142

Your commitment to diversity is reflected in the kind of people whom you refuse to hire? lumberjack_jeff Sep 2014 #144

Can you give me an example of a post in which a DUer condemned a company that hires JDPriestly Sep 2014 #145

You are correct we hire people who we get along with. dilby Sep 2014 #146

But you don't discriminate based on traits with which a person is born like race, sexual preference, JDPriestly Sep 2014 #182

oh gross Enrique Sep 2014 #68

My son is Southern and will probably be attending GA Tech. Fawke Em Sep 2014 #96

The accent is not an issue. dilby Sep 2014 #120

Kind of changing your tune. TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #121

Because Rednecks from the South are different than Southerners. dilby Sep 2014 #125

Just let it slide, dilby Android3.14 Sep 2014 #180

Lol, unfortunately, I've met far too many "redneck engineers." Jamastiene Sep 2014 #157

Yet, people from other countries will fit in to your culture? Live and Learn Sep 2014 #108

Where do you get that from? n/t dilby Sep 2014 #126

I guess I was blinded by the Live and Learn Sep 2014 #160

I understand peoples problem with the culture thing. dilby Sep 2014 #170

Thanks for clarifying what you meant. Live and Learn Sep 2014 #181

Funny, that's what some guys think about women in STEM TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #118

Where is your company? abelenkpe Sep 2014 #41

Company is in Portland. dilby Sep 2014 #47

Political litmus test? meaculpa2011 Sep 2014 #116

No kidding! TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #119

All companies have litmus tests. Even those in government positions like the DMV and police. BlueCaliDem Sep 2014 #134

What that guy is doing is illegal, women are a protected class. dilby Sep 2014 #139

I know. But it's pretty hard to prove that kind of discrimination in a court of law. BlueCaliDem Sep 2014 #140

Actually more like a progressive litmus test. dilby Sep 2014 #124

You can dress it up, wrap it and put a pretty pink bow on it... meaculpa2011 Sep 2014 #133

Since misogynists and homophobes are not protected classes I think we are safe. dilby Sep 2014 #135

Is the Ludovico Treatment part of your hiring process? meaculpa2011 Sep 2014 #136

Why is H1 visa bad but illegal imigration good? Travis_0004 Sep 2014 #28

Illegal imigrants milk cows and clean toilets warrant46 Sep 2014 #34

Illegal immigrants do a lot more than that TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #49

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This! n/t truedelphi Sep 2014 #51

Yup. n/t amandabeech Sep 2014 #83

^^K&R^^ Progressive dog Sep 2014 #110

NICE LIST warrant46 Sep 2014 #163

I don't think anyone says illegal immigration is good. NCTraveler Sep 2014 #36

Unbridled support for illegal immigration and they don't think it is a good? TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #54

"Unbridled support for illegal immigration and they don't think it is a good?" NCTraveler Sep 2014 #56

How many people here claim TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #60

I have yet to see illegal immigration called a good thing. NCTraveler Sep 2014 #64

Really? TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #66

you sound like you get your opionions from Fox News Skittles Sep 2014 #88

CLUELESS? Aha TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #90

Well, you show up, insisting that everyone on DU jeff47 Sep 2014 #93

I haven't watched Fox News since Bush v. Gore. Seriously. TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #94

And I'm Santa Claus. (nt) jeff47 Sep 2014 #104

And democrats are not a monolithic group TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #107

aw don't worry, I am done with you Skittles Sep 2014 #95

Good question Andy823 Sep 2014 #61

It's not just H-1B Visa program is bad. Study H-2B Visa program abuse too! cascadiance Sep 2014 #74

Because it's temporary. jeff47 Sep 2014 #92

Already happened abelenkpe Sep 2014 #32

+1 warrant46 Sep 2014 #45

If it's not their ox, they don't care who's gored. Face it. TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #55

Welcome to globalisation. Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #57

Very true. TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #63

Globalisation means a tendency towards wage convergence across economies, actually Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #65

But we don't have to let them in. TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #67

American prosperity is partly built on exploiting the resources and labour of developing countries. Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #69

That doesn't mean we can't change it. TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #73

It means lower wages for the employers & employees. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #72

NOT CEOS!!! We should ask them WTF NOT? cascadiance Sep 2014 #75

My bad. What I meant was they get to pay lower wages! grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #76

Your presence on a US Democratic forum is therefore puzzling brentspeak Sep 2014 #98

See, here's the thing Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #113

"...a love for the United States and a desire for its citizenry to prosper." True but not limited to pampango Sep 2014 #138

Just like white male privilege The2ndWheel Sep 2014 #100

Wow. TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #112

Just comparing the situations The2ndWheel Sep 2014 #117

If you mean we shouldn't be throwing our weight around the world TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #123

No, just saying it's happening The2ndWheel Sep 2014 #131

It doesn't HAVE to happen TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #132

Living wages for the working class is a myth WestCoastLib Sep 2014 #159

Too late, I diversified my work experience. Rex Sep 2014 #70

He knows better.... doesn't he???? grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #71

Yeah but the Democrats... sendero Sep 2014 #85

Fuck this shit. Goddam corporatist. kath Sep 2014 #87

You know, I bet H1B executives would be far cheaper than US-born executives jeff47 Sep 2014 #89

Naw BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #91

That's capitalism on a global scale for you YoungDemCA Sep 2014 #97

"They took our jobs!" is funny, remember? Everybody said we shouldn't whine, remember? What changed? Romulox Sep 2014 #101

Ideals and reality don't always mix The2ndWheel Sep 2014 #102

The "ideal" is every man for himself. The reality is that this maxim applies to IT workers Romulox Sep 2014 #103

Until we have worldwide free movements of people TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #130

Of course we have a "right" to do so. I just don't see any evidence that we will. Romulox Sep 2014 #150

Special Snowflakes 4Q2u2 Sep 2014 #151

Actually, I have a lot to say about the trades getting hammered TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #165

Because they do not see from their Ivory Towers 4Q2u2 Sep 2014 #167

We have a Russian group of laborers here TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #168

What makes you think IT workers are globalization cheerleaders brentspeak Sep 2014 #162

They don't have to be cheerleaders, just part of the same system as the rest of us. Romulox Sep 2014 #164

IT Workers Are The Canary In the Coal Mine For the Promises Made to Americans TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #166

IT jobs are no more significant than were auto jobs, a generation ago. Romulox Sep 2014 #171

I didn't sell out anyone TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #173

So its really the Oligarchs that hate us for our freedoms! Okay I see now. misterhighwasted Sep 2014 #105

Yes, and large numbers of spouses get the plum jobs at gov/t agencies like NASA, NIH, AG, NSF, CDC. kelliekat44 Sep 2014 #109

So is it better to just ship the jobs Progressive dog Sep 2014 #111

K&R Paka Sep 2014 #115

The U.S. has become the Third World country that vkkv Sep 2014 #128

Shameful. All immigrants should be on equal footing. All should have the same rights. JDPriestly Sep 2014 #129

Hmmm... A flood of cheap labor never seemed to be an issue before... LostInAnomie Sep 2014 #161

Well said. nt Romulox Sep 2014 #172

Engineers are next? Engineers are now. Engineers are "tech workers". n/t hughee99 Sep 2014 #178

I'm going to blame the republicans for this. I'm still working out the details on that, though. n/t hughee99 Sep 2014 #174

Just wait 'til employers start arranging marriages between workers for H-1B reasons. hughee99 Sep 2014 #175