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Showing Original Post only (View all)Gay Culture Is Dying. Good Riddance! [View all]
Wait, wait, before you hit Alert, hear her out.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/09/08/gay_culture_i_look_forward_to_its_extinction_dialogue.html
The notion that gay culture might be experiencing something of a decline is not a new one. Andrew Sullivan got there nine years ago. You've chronicled the decline of the gay bar here in Slate, and others have noted the increasing straightness of gay vacation spots. There's also a recent study that suggests fewer gay people are moving to predominantly gay neighborhoods. All this is bad news for certain peoplegay cruise directors, for instance, and real-estate agents with lots of listings in the gayborhood. But should the wider LGBTQ community really be spending time, energy, and emotional bandwidth on pleas to preserve gay spaces?
The preservationist impulse is an understandable one. Lesbians and gays are a tiny minority. Historically, we've been subject to stigma and oppression at the hands of a larger culture acting under the influence of the purity dictates of irrational ancient religions. Today, though, these religious prohibitions are holding far less sway over modern ideas and attitudes, and they were themselves something of an historical accident, a case of a fringe religious group (Christians) unexpectedly coming to dominate Western culture a thousand years ago. The two previous cultures to which Westerners owe the greatest cultural debt, those of Greece and Rome, didnt find anything particularly wrong or abhorrent in homosexual activity. Although their ethic was nothing like our modern one, it is instructive to note that there is nothing natural or inevitable about moral or legal prohibitions of homosexuality....
Those who suggest that we, as gays, will always need places of refuge show a failure of imagination at how bright our future can be. They assume that there must always be some stigma, some feeling of difference, or separateness, or loneliness, remaining after the work of the LGBTQ movement is accomplished. But why? After all, left-handedness was once associated with the devil, but there is no distinct left-handed subculture. Left-handed people have their shared annoyances, they even have pride, of a sort, in their supposed tendencies toward creativity and genius. But there are no left-handed bars or cruises.
Gays and lesbians are different from left-handers in one important way, which is that we must seek out and date each other (or bisexuals of our own gender). If Internet dating didnt exist, this would probably be enough to make designated gay spaces a necessity. As it is, however, even this level of segregation has become unnecessary. Gays and lesbians should not be afraid of a future where we reclaim our birthright by integrating fully into the communities that give birth to us.
The preservationist impulse is an understandable one. Lesbians and gays are a tiny minority. Historically, we've been subject to stigma and oppression at the hands of a larger culture acting under the influence of the purity dictates of irrational ancient religions. Today, though, these religious prohibitions are holding far less sway over modern ideas and attitudes, and they were themselves something of an historical accident, a case of a fringe religious group (Christians) unexpectedly coming to dominate Western culture a thousand years ago. The two previous cultures to which Westerners owe the greatest cultural debt, those of Greece and Rome, didnt find anything particularly wrong or abhorrent in homosexual activity. Although their ethic was nothing like our modern one, it is instructive to note that there is nothing natural or inevitable about moral or legal prohibitions of homosexuality....
Those who suggest that we, as gays, will always need places of refuge show a failure of imagination at how bright our future can be. They assume that there must always be some stigma, some feeling of difference, or separateness, or loneliness, remaining after the work of the LGBTQ movement is accomplished. But why? After all, left-handedness was once associated with the devil, but there is no distinct left-handed subculture. Left-handed people have their shared annoyances, they even have pride, of a sort, in their supposed tendencies toward creativity and genius. But there are no left-handed bars or cruises.
Gays and lesbians are different from left-handers in one important way, which is that we must seek out and date each other (or bisexuals of our own gender). If Internet dating didnt exist, this would probably be enough to make designated gay spaces a necessity. As it is, however, even this level of segregation has become unnecessary. Gays and lesbians should not be afraid of a future where we reclaim our birthright by integrating fully into the communities that give birth to us.
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when i tell gay people that i can't accept a job in several states, they always know what i mean
La Lioness Priyanka
Sep 2014
#10
Same here! I used to travel a lot and it was always great to be in a strange city for
RKP5637
Sep 2014
#17
Ah, gotcha, next time start recording, train videos get a lot of views on YouTube
snooper2
Sep 2014
#22
People forget there isn't a bright line between gay culture and straight culture.
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#16
I question that too. It's not as if gays on the whole are any more "self-destructive" than heteros.
nomorenomore08
Sep 2014
#39
I believe they were referring to promiscuity, hard drugs and disease.
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Sep 2014
#44
I certainly think it's possibe (even desirable) to maintain a distinctive culture and community
nomorenomore08
Sep 2014
#40
That's a great way to put it. People shouldn't have to be "the same" just to co-exist. n/t
nomorenomore08
Sep 2014
#43