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tazkcmo

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39. I understand
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 07:35 PM
Sep 2014

And I share the same views. I agree it is best that the region stabilize on it's own. In absence of that along with invitations/cooperation with the regional governments to aid, I believe we can avoid much of the resentment though never all.

Just want to be clear that as a veteran I think military force is a last resort. In this case, I also believe there are no other alternatives but violence as ISIS is crazy. I approve of the President's handling of it thus far. We cannot/should not go it alone for all the reasons you state but I feel strongly, and hope I turn out to be wrong, that if ISIS is allowed to survive in any significant way (the conflict is unresolved by the regional powers and they ask us to help), then we will need to aid those threatened. I'm not even talking about the oil, either. I'm talking about for the good of the people. I was re-called for Oil War I/Desert Storm and vowed never to fight for oil again and wouldn't ask any other SM to do it.

To sum it up, it may come down to pay me now or pay me later.

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Seems Sen. Warren has bought the Brooklyn Bridge? 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #1
It’s not all of a sudden, her foreign policy has always been establishment Democratic stuff. Maybe Chathamization Sep 2014 #4
Yes. I'm seeing that now. 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #8
This makes me sad to see her so hawkish. ncjustice80 Sep 2014 #29
That's the part I have trouble with. tazkcmo Sep 2014 #30
I think military force will create more enemies than anything elae. ncjustice80 Sep 2014 #32
I understand tazkcmo Sep 2014 #39
Why shouldn't any such people be tracked abroad treestar Sep 2014 #54
It will be used to harass/abuse Muslims. nt ncjustice80 Sep 2014 #56
Why, what's the point of bothering with that? treestar Sep 2014 #61
Why oi rethuglicans harass anyone? They re the modern day klan :/ ncjustice80 Sep 2014 #69
Soooo true. People hear what they WANT to hear. zonkers Sep 2014 #57
You think somebody is pulling the strings behind the scenes? Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #6
Not necessarily 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #10
You seem to be in the minority. If polling is correct, 2/3 of America agrees with her. n/t Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #14
Propaganda works. morningfog Sep 2014 #17
It sure does, and ISIS seems to be expert at it. Their polished videos are now legend. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #22
Their videos and the US promotion of them. morningfog Sep 2014 #46
The videos were posted to social media. How is the US "promoting" them? Look, I realize there.... Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #48
Oh bullshit. morningfog Sep 2014 #50
And vice-versa! Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #68
Well said. zappaman Sep 2014 #62
+10 n/t 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #24
Actually I didn't realize Warren was such a hawk... Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #38
Yah, me too. Sanders is also staunchly pro-Israel if I'm not mistaken 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #43
I don't think she's that out of bounds with many others' thoughts on this... cascadiance Sep 2014 #28
Uh oh, I can see the avatars and sig lines disappearing as we speak. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #2
Not really, sorry. Remember that old and hoary saying, "Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the djean111 Sep 2014 #3
I'd say there's a very vocal group on DU who adhere strictly to that principle. There's never a.... Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #7
+1,000,000 nt Andy823 Sep 2014 #21
You said it treestar Sep 2014 #55
I am counterbalancing by adding a sig bumper sticker FrodosPet Sep 2014 #60
No. I can disagree with her on this just like I can disagree with Obama on it. Autumn Sep 2014 #52
Destroy the monster we helped create CJCRANE Sep 2014 #5
There is a certain perverted logic to "destroying the monster 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #26
k&r for Elizabeth Warren. n/t Laelth Sep 2014 #9
She was a republican up until 1996 NightWatcher Sep 2014 #11
I just heard Mitch McConnell say: "when Elizabeth Warren starts to sound like Dick Cheney, you know Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #12
When she advocates occupying Iraq with many thousands of ground troops to kick TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #33
+1. Remember when Colin Powell warned, "if you break it, you own it"? We (Bush) "broke it", and... Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #35
Sounds like EW has caught up with US public opinion on ISIS. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #13
wait! She's listening to her constituents?? What a novel approach. wyldwolf Sep 2014 #31
I know, right? She's been sullied by the Neocons. When is her "purification" ceremony? Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #34
Well, this ought to put the Centrist complaint that liberals demand pure candidates to rest then. Marr Sep 2014 #15
What makes you think I support Warren's ISIS policy? Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #16
your ok with isis stealing oil? Mosby Sep 2014 #18
I actually edited my post before you posted that. Marr Sep 2014 #19
"I assumed that your point in posting this was to highlight some policy alignment with the Obama Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #20
No, not really. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #23
That doesn't prove the sweeping statement. Marr Sep 2014 #25
What "sweeping statement"? OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #27
Thank you, and good luck getting a cogent response. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #36
Are you serious? Marr Sep 2014 #40
Bravo. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #44
A simple, "I apologize, you're right" would suffice. Marr Sep 2014 #47
Ummm...what do the NSA opponents say? nt kelliekat44 Sep 2014 #37
Huh. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #45
the thing is this isn't anything different, it's just like Howard Dean supporting Hillary should be JI7 Sep 2014 #41
It's a disturbing pattern. Remember when Brian Schweitzer was a hero for a hot minute, simply.... Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #49
"..change...how we monitor...."???? CHANGE?? Not "implement"?? WinkyDink Sep 2014 #42
Good for her steelsmith Sep 2014 #51
War Fever is Extremely Infectious TheSarcastinator Sep 2014 #53
???? Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #58
Anyone expect differently from a harvard law professor? AZ Progressive Sep 2014 #59
So I guess I'll be voting for Rand Paul then! zappaman Sep 2014 #63
Looks like my choices are Rand Paul or Waffles. Katashi_itto Sep 2014 #65
or both zappaman Sep 2014 #66
Lol!! Katashi_itto Sep 2014 #67
!!! Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #70
Well, I guess now the bloom is off the rose LordGlenconner Sep 2014 #64
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