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59. In Fact, Sir, They Have, And For Some While....

Wed Sep 10, 2014, 05:22 PM

Sep 2014

http://www.amnesty.org/es/library/asset/EUR50/023/2014/en/e13e9f87-f185-4fc9-91df-c39a320f70d2/eur500232014en.pdf

HARASSMENT AND VIOLENCE AGAINST CRIMEAN
TATARS BY STATE AND NON-STATE ACTORS

On 3 March, 39-year old Reshat Ametov, a Crimean Tatar, held a one-man protest in
front of the Crimean Council of Ministers building in the region’s capital, Simferopol,
which was being guarded by ‘self-defence’ forces. Video footage shows him being led
away by three men from the ‘self-defence’ forces. His family claim that when they
reported him as missing, there was no subsequent contact from the authorities. His body
was found almost two weeks later, showing signs of torture. A criminal case has been
opened, but no progress in the investigation has been reported.

Amnesty International has spoken with a member of the Crimean Mejlis who was also
beaten by ‘self-defence’ forces in central Simferopol on 6 May. Abduraman Egiz was
approached by three or four men and asked to show them his identity documents and
the content of his car. When he refused, the men called for reinforcement. Some 15 or
20 other ‘self-defence’ men arrived within minutes. They asked Abduraman Egiz again to
show his documents. When he refused again, stating that he would only deal with the
police, they handcuffed him and started to beat him.

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Amnesty International implicates Ukrainian volunteer fascist unit in War Crimes. [View all] another_liberal Sep 2014 OP

RT again I see. HERVEPA Sep 2014 #1

Not exactly, HERV . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #5

Apparetly RT reporting on what someone else alledges is even considered propaganda by some. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #21

Some likely didn't even bother to read the OP . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #29

It's RT commenting on an AI Report. Not the same as posing from AI report. HERVEPA Sep 2014 #26

Don't care for summaries . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #31

Thanks. Maybe post where AI takes Russia to task also? (probably won't find this in RT) HERVEPA Sep 2014 #37

AI implicated Russia in war crimes AgingAmerican Sep 2014 #47

Why bother malaise Sep 2014 #42

Don't Feed the Bears derby378 Sep 2014 #34

Good stuff that is . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #38

Ad Hominem. FAIL. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #57

k&r Dems to Win Sep 2014 #2

Thank you . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #4

The Ukraine government and army ALLOWS this? What do Kiev regime supporters have to say about this? Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #3

I will never understand why Kiev accepted these units into its army. another_liberal Sep 2014 #7

KYIv regime supporters would probably recommend you to read the actual article meMeMEEEE Sep 2014 #39

Nazi symbols on any battalion by any name is the problem, ya see? Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #60

I agree with that meMeMEEEE Sep 2014 #87

Some creative cutting and pasting in this report, including speculation from the Russian F. Ministry pinto Sep 2014 #6

That changes nothing . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #10

Much as anyone would actually try to excuse Russia's legislated anti-gay laws... for whatever reason LanternWaste Sep 2014 #11

Who is excusing any anti-gay laws? another_liberal Sep 2014 #17

You Are, Sir, Quite Certainly The Magistrate Sep 2014 #24

So you intend to continue posting that quote (and your suggestion of its meaning) . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #27

I Can Understand Your Reluctance To Face The Consequences Of Your Comment, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2014 #30

That is your opinion . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #32

It Is Not An Opinion, Sir, But A Fact The Magistrate Sep 2014 #33

repeating for the benefit of others- snooper2 Sep 2014 #46

You should only point out and not engage with hominem attacks. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #61

Ah, The Ritual Chant Of 'Ad Hominem', Sir The Magistrate Sep 2014 #62

Attacking everything related to Ukraine/Russia you disagree with by erecting the separate issue of Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #63

The Man Said What He Said, Sir, And In Saying It, Forfeited Any Expectation Of Being Taken Seriously The Magistrate Sep 2014 #65

True . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #67

+1...nt SidDithers Sep 2014 #51

Well that post is rather awkward for you mythology Sep 2014 #50

I posted what I posted . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #69

That You Think That Is A Defense, Sir, Is Laughable The Magistrate Sep 2014 #71

So long, Magi . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #72

Where Are You Going, Sir? The Magistrate Sep 2014 #73

Wow. zappaman Sep 2014 #54

What do you think it means? another_liberal Sep 2014 #70

"Certainly not I." Yeah right.. certainly not AL. Who him? Mr innocent? Thank you, Magistrate Cha Sep 2014 #88

What it changes is the big picture. Russian Foreign Ministry cherry picked and extrapolated from AI. pinto Sep 2014 #12

I Await His Citing This Comment From Amnesty International, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2014 #25

Amnesty International huh? edhopper Sep 2014 #8

Did they accuse Russia of War Crimes? another_liberal Sep 2014 #13

Please edhopper Sep 2014 #41

In Fact, Sir, They Have, And For Some While.... The Magistrate Sep 2014 #59

I take this is a response to edhopper Sep 2014 #66

Just Backing You Up With a Link, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2014 #68

I appreciate the effort edhopper Sep 2014 #74

The O.P. Is Beyond Redemption, Sir, But Establishing a Record Is Worthwhile The Magistrate Sep 2014 #75

Very true edhopper Sep 2014 #79

More interesting items, these direct from Amnesty International's own website.... Bluenorthwest Sep 2014 #9

Russia's homophobic laws and gay-bashing are disgusting . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #15

Here Is How Disgusting You Think They Are, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2014 #19

Your own interrpretation . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #23

Try It On Someone Who Does Not Speak English, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2014 #28

Rave on then, Magi, as you clearly feel you must . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #35

Not Much Of a Buddy Holly Fan, Are You, Fella.... The Magistrate Sep 2014 #36

"Russian laws have insulted their (gay) life style, so they demand we fight a third World War to pampango Sep 2014 #40

Your parenthesis, your addition . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #76

Your Flailings Are Getting Pathetic, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2014 #77

As the Magistrate so correctly told you, we can all read English and what you wrote was Bluenorthwest Sep 2014 #81

Are you calling me a"bigot"? another_liberal Sep 2014 #82

Your Own Words Make The Case Clear, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2014 #83

I love when people try to weasel out of their own words. zappaman Sep 2014 #86

That's not why you are being called a "bigot" zappaman Sep 2014 #85

Please explain . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #89

Your Own Words Provide The Explaination, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2014 #90

Here's my "gay lifestyle" - Get up, make a cup, sit outside for a bit, a walk and then demand WWIII. pinto Sep 2014 #45

.... greatauntoftriplets Sep 2014 #64

I was referring to people who want a war with Russia . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #78

Everyone Can Read What You Said, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2014 #80

RT. LOL...nt SidDithers Sep 2014 #52

actually amnesty says La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #14

That may be part of what they said . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #16

where are these charges? can you please point me to a resource that is not a secondary source La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #18

Someone else will cover the story eventually . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #20

so this headline is an utter lie, right? La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #43

Hasn't stopped the OP edhopper Sep 2014 #48

exactly La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #49

+100! zappaman Sep 2014 #55

The Topic Of Your O.P., Sir, Is Your Tunnel Vision And Extremely Poor Judgement The Magistrate Sep 2014 #22

Whoops! zappaman Sep 2014 #56

Indeed, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2014 #84

According to RT snooper2 Sep 2014 #44

The Magistrate has ruled 4Q2u2 Sep 2014 #53

Can we please fix our country first. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #58