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In reply to the discussion: SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS! [View all]

Auggie

(33,280 posts)
6. An old answer from an apparent cop:
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 05:17 PM
Sep 2014
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060711011931AAbmgHG

"If I ask you for ID and you tell me you don't have it or outright refuse to provide it (under circumstances where you don't have to), you're going to send my "bad guy" radar into overdrive. I will very likely do everything possible to determine who you are, because I don't want to be the guy who let the murderer from Kentucky or the rapist from Illinois escape justice. And yes, depending on the circumstances, it's entirely possible I could make things very difficult for you if you refuse to identify yourself.

So the answer to your question, given the very limited amount of detail you provided, is no...you do not have to show ID when requested for a "random" reason.

HOWEVER:

You are not going to be in any position to decide if the request is just a random one. The police might have a very valid reason to request your identification, and they are not required to tell you what it is before you hand over the ID.

One sure way to find out if they have the legal right to demand your identification is to refuse to hand it over. If they have the legal right to demand it, and you refuse to hand it over, the next sound you hear will be handcuffs. If that's a chance you're prepared to take, then refuse all requests for identification from law enforcement. You'll only get arrested on those occasions when the request was legally justified.

If you're one of those people who just object to the idea of telling the police who you are, get over it. We can and do make it our business to know who someone is if we have an interest in them. If you want to be the guy that refuses to identify yourself on principle, go for it. Be prepared to have unpleasant run-ins with law enforcement.

You asked about showing your ID. That implies that you will have it with you. If you don't have your ID with you, then you can't show it, can you? However, that's no magic bullet, either. If you are in a situation where the police have legal justification for knowing who you are, and you cannot prove who you are, you run a HUGE risk of being booked into the local jail until such time as you do prove who you are. And we are not required to take your word for it, or to accept anything less than official government-issued identification with a photo on it."

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SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS! [View all] trumad Sep 2014 OP
I agree with you here actually. Xyzse Sep 2014 #1
a citation requires ID Egnever Sep 2014 #13
So what happens if you arent carrying one? GummyBearz Sep 2014 #14
You go with your bad self Egnever Sep 2014 #15
in that case GummyBearz Sep 2014 #25
"Show me your ID" is getting pretty close to "Show me your papers" . . . brush Sep 2014 #28
That sounds ghastly, just ghastly. hunter Sep 2014 #32
That is not what the witnesses say happened. Evergreen Emerald Sep 2014 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author brush Sep 2014 #29
Witnesses from the nearby director's guild office Evergreen Emerald Sep 2014 #34
I love call out threads. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #3
In the old days I'd call out trumad Sep 2014 #7
... Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #9
Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #4
Just drop the mic anywhere Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #5
Favorite papes, bar none. ..nt TeeYiYi Sep 2014 #8
An old answer from an apparent cop: Auggie Sep 2014 #6
Tough Toenails tazkcmo Sep 2014 #30
Authoritarian garble garble... gawd. hunter Sep 2014 #33
What if you don't have it with you? treestar Sep 2014 #56
I remember a detective JonLP24 Sep 2014 #57
My lawyer has advised me not to fuck with cops because you never know who you're dealing with Auggie Sep 2014 #58
She was having sex in full view of many people and knew it. KurtNYC Sep 2014 #10
Damn. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #11
celebs have a different relationship with the police and I think the audio KurtNYC Sep 2014 #19
Sounds like she should have handed over her ID Egnever Sep 2014 #12
we're racists- according to Trumad and much of DU- for pointing that out cali Sep 2014 #16
TMZ is racist too Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #17
Results of your jury service ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2014 #18
oh pleases Trumad's very first sentence when he states m-lekktor Sep 2014 #21
Yep AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #41
I have lots of "stalkers" on DU- or rather people who alert cali Sep 2014 #53
i've noticed that 1dogleft Sep 2014 #23
TMZ kcr Sep 2014 #60
Trumad showed an interview where the man and woman share their version publicly Generic Other Sep 2014 #20
I don't think you are correct in saying that she didn't have to produce ID on demand SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2014 #22
I think the cop agrees with you on that as well Generic Other Sep 2014 #24
If a cop asks me for ID SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2014 #26
I rarely carry it Generic Other Sep 2014 #37
I routinely go for walks around the area at night without a wallet or ID. NutmegYankee Sep 2014 #45
An unnamed informant on TMZ for God's sake. gollygee Sep 2014 #39
The police better have a large library of amorous white couples getting the same treatment... hunter Sep 2014 #35
Guy with gun stopped by police, refuses to give Id walks away.... AuntPatsy Sep 2014 #27
I'll be honest i didn't watch the video Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #31
Hypothetical - A person is out jogging without their wallet and is stopped by police. NutmegYankee Sep 2014 #36
49 Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #38
So a non-answer? NutmegYankee Sep 2014 #40
There are many ways AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #42
But what if you don't have it with you. What happens? NutmegYankee Sep 2014 #43
On a military base? AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #46
A regular person walking or jogging in their own neighborhood. NutmegYankee Sep 2014 #47
Took an oath AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #49
I also took an Oath. NutmegYankee Sep 2014 #50
Ok AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #59
Just like you don't have to consent to a search of your vehicle. moriah Sep 2014 #44
Nuh uh! She don't have no rights when a police person is talking to her 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #48
Wow. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #54
I came back from my walk JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #51
Well I carry it when walking so whistler162 Sep 2014 #52
I live in a really good community JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #55
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