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JonLP24

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57. I remember a detective
Tue Sep 16, 2014, 08:22 AM
Sep 2014

pulled me over because they were investigating a fare that I just dropped off -- I had no idea they were following me. It was for "driving on the wrong side of the road" -- I was driving on the right and pulled to the curb on the house to the left hand side. I had no idea that was illegal so I was absolutely confused to the probable cause (plus I had an iffy "terry stop" by police in 2011 before) or the reason why they were questioning me especially since they weren't telling me anything.

Anyways during the course of it I gave them my ID, asked if that was my address told him no but couldn't remember the address (a girlfriend's apartment) but gave the intersection, the name of the apartments, the name of the car dealership it was located next to -- I just couldn't remember the damn unit number and was indicating to me that this was a problem. So I call her, tell her the cop wants to know her address she refuses, hang up and tell the cop she refuses. He tells me that he'll have to take me to jail until he figures out what my damn address is (I'm not even on the lease, was there less than 2 weeks) so I call again and tell her she wants to speak to him, he says he doesn't "want to play any games" and refuses to speak to her, she says, "I want to tell him the address, who is the one playing games?" She advises me to hand the phone to another cop which I did -- problem solved.

After they completely searched the vehicle and questioned me to death -- what could I tell him? They apparently knew much more about what the fare was into than I did, how could I help? They wrote me a ticket and asked me to do some undercover work for them -- even giving him a free ride to the suspects house. This was after I lost valuable time and it was particularly bad day (they gave me shit over noticing how little money I had in my wallet and what the daily lease rates were -- like they were happy about the cost of this inconvenience to me). That $20 the fare gave me was the most I made that day of a single fare. Why would I help them out even if I wanted to?

I think police hurt themselves in the long wrong with this sort of attitude. If people are treated rude and disrespectfully, why would they want to help them out in the future? I like to deal with people and situations that are straightforward, I don't like lies & manipulation, and disrespectful behavior which turn me off to the local police.

On edit -- I just remembered I ran into that same detective near the entrance of a grocery store when another officer near him was arrested someone for "threatening" (according to the officer yelling & cuffing him) he turned to me and asked, "Do you remember where I stopped you at?"
"Yes" (me)
"Where did I stop you at?"
"You know where." (me)
"No, where did I stop you at."
"Can I stop answering questions" (or use my 5th amendment right or something to that effect)
"See you soon" (detective)

What an asshole. I still can't figure out why he wanted to have a useless conversation with me on my way to the grocery store while he was in the middle of arresting someone that is obviously unrelated.

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SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS! [View all] trumad Sep 2014 OP
I agree with you here actually. Xyzse Sep 2014 #1
a citation requires ID Egnever Sep 2014 #13
So what happens if you arent carrying one? GummyBearz Sep 2014 #14
You go with your bad self Egnever Sep 2014 #15
in that case GummyBearz Sep 2014 #25
"Show me your ID" is getting pretty close to "Show me your papers" . . . brush Sep 2014 #28
That sounds ghastly, just ghastly. hunter Sep 2014 #32
That is not what the witnesses say happened. Evergreen Emerald Sep 2014 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author brush Sep 2014 #29
Witnesses from the nearby director's guild office Evergreen Emerald Sep 2014 #34
I love call out threads. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #3
In the old days I'd call out trumad Sep 2014 #7
... Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #9
Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #4
Just drop the mic anywhere Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #5
Favorite papes, bar none. ..nt TeeYiYi Sep 2014 #8
An old answer from an apparent cop: Auggie Sep 2014 #6
Tough Toenails tazkcmo Sep 2014 #30
Authoritarian garble garble... gawd. hunter Sep 2014 #33
What if you don't have it with you? treestar Sep 2014 #56
I remember a detective JonLP24 Sep 2014 #57
My lawyer has advised me not to fuck with cops because you never know who you're dealing with Auggie Sep 2014 #58
She was having sex in full view of many people and knew it. KurtNYC Sep 2014 #10
Damn. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #11
celebs have a different relationship with the police and I think the audio KurtNYC Sep 2014 #19
Sounds like she should have handed over her ID Egnever Sep 2014 #12
we're racists- according to Trumad and much of DU- for pointing that out cali Sep 2014 #16
TMZ is racist too Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #17
Results of your jury service ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2014 #18
oh pleases Trumad's very first sentence when he states m-lekktor Sep 2014 #21
Yep AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #41
I have lots of "stalkers" on DU- or rather people who alert cali Sep 2014 #53
i've noticed that 1dogleft Sep 2014 #23
TMZ kcr Sep 2014 #60
Trumad showed an interview where the man and woman share their version publicly Generic Other Sep 2014 #20
I don't think you are correct in saying that she didn't have to produce ID on demand SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2014 #22
I think the cop agrees with you on that as well Generic Other Sep 2014 #24
If a cop asks me for ID SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2014 #26
I rarely carry it Generic Other Sep 2014 #37
I routinely go for walks around the area at night without a wallet or ID. NutmegYankee Sep 2014 #45
An unnamed informant on TMZ for God's sake. gollygee Sep 2014 #39
The police better have a large library of amorous white couples getting the same treatment... hunter Sep 2014 #35
Guy with gun stopped by police, refuses to give Id walks away.... AuntPatsy Sep 2014 #27
I'll be honest i didn't watch the video Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #31
Hypothetical - A person is out jogging without their wallet and is stopped by police. NutmegYankee Sep 2014 #36
49 Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #38
So a non-answer? NutmegYankee Sep 2014 #40
There are many ways AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #42
But what if you don't have it with you. What happens? NutmegYankee Sep 2014 #43
On a military base? AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #46
A regular person walking or jogging in their own neighborhood. NutmegYankee Sep 2014 #47
Took an oath AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #49
I also took an Oath. NutmegYankee Sep 2014 #50
Ok AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #59
Just like you don't have to consent to a search of your vehicle. moriah Sep 2014 #44
Nuh uh! She don't have no rights when a police person is talking to her 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #48
Wow. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #54
I came back from my walk JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #51
Well I carry it when walking so whistler162 Sep 2014 #52
I live in a really good community JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #55
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