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In reply to the discussion: The issue about hitting kids has always been an easy one for me. [View all]pnwmom
(110,261 posts)I hope that's not because you were abused yourself and intend to carry the tradition on.
Anyone as smart as you is smart enough to read the research that shows the deleterious effects on children's brain development from this type of "discipline."
Maybe the reason for the prevalence of corporal punishment among the Amish is similar to that of black people in the South. Here's a point of view from an Amish woman:
http://salomafurlong.com/aboutamish/2010/11/amish-and-spanking/
It was in the Middle Ages that the Anabaptists beliefs were formed, and they were persecuted for their beliefs as is witnessed in The Martyrs Mirror, a book found in nearly every Amish home. Perhaps the persecution they endured explains why the Amish religion is still so punitive today. Punishment, or the threat of it, as a way of making people nice is very much a part of the belief system in Amish communities, which they instill in children from the time they can understand the concept. This is evident from Naomis comments about spankings. I had never heard the folding hands for prayer indicator of when a child is old enough to be corrected, but my severe grandmother had a similar one when she claimed that when a child is aware enough to put a comb to its head, then the child is old enough to be spanked.
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If people get the willies about the phrase breaking the childs will there is a good reason for that. Breaking the will is exactly what the Amish mean. My father often used that term and he meant to do just that. I did not get spankings as a child I got beatings. I cannot speak for all Amish parents, but I know with my own parents there was a great deal of anger and frustration that came with those beatings. The physical pain was nearly unbearable, not to mention the emotional turmoil that comes of being overwhelmed by someone so much bigger, stronger, and more powerful.
If the Amish are successful in breaking their childrens will, it means the children become compliant because they are afraid to be otherwise, which makes them vulnerable to abuses.
The most important aspect of Amish childrens compliance is that they will not question the Amish ways. When they become members of the church, they will be asked to give up their individuality to become part of the community twice a year in communion services. And those who have been made nice are happy to accommodate.