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54. Yes...you have to win elections!

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The notion among the Party's Deep Thinkers is that Bernie is a disaster. [View all] Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 OP

Being a compromised third way doofus.. sendero Sep 2014 #1

I pretty much agree with that... Ken Burch Sep 2014 #6

And much more common. It's where there heart really is. n/t jtuck004 Sep 2014 #55

Note quotes around "deep thinkers." Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 #13

Don't you love it when these dufuses tell you how politically naive you are? That you 'don't sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #61

THIS ^^^^^ LovingA2andMI Sep 2014 #84

You had me with "dufuses". Well said. nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #118

Yes, it's always a hoot when people who mindlessly bleat QC Sep 2014 #141

+ 1,000. SheilaT Sep 2014 #173

"Wisdom calls aloud outside" hfojvt Sep 2014 #175

"Wisdom calls aloud outside" SheilaT Sep 2014 #178

They found the word 'pragmatic' a few years ago and have clung to it like glue to sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #224

...and let's not forget how many elections the conventional wisdom has LOST for Democrats! beerandjesus Sep 2014 #155

This is one of the most beautifully eloquent posts I have ever seen on DU. Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 #188

reality-based real world realists frylock Sep 2014 #194

I love reading your posts. tazkcmo Sep 2014 #201

Aw, thank you, but you seem to do fine yourself from what I have seen. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #225

Indeed! Veilex Sep 2014 #234

"Dufuses"-- plural of "dufus" Art_from_Ark Sep 2014 #239

DOH! Veilex Sep 2014 #240

Thank you! n/t sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #327

If you think Bernie Sanders can become a Democrat and win the Election.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #295

I don't 'think' anything, I KNOW that the system is so corrupted now that sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #311

THE SYSTEM? Fuck....we just watched nearly 100% of Scots vote in an election.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #312

You have a point there. Taking democracy for granted is not a good idea. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #314

repeatedly telling them the same thing that Rightwingers tell them.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #315

If they're so excellent at it, how come the numbers are so high? See what I mean? sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #316

YOU ARE naive if you doubt the marketing abilities of the Rightwing... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #317

YOU are helping to keep people from voting. It is DEFEATIST to keep on, election after election sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #326

that's bullshit and YOU know it..... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #328

I'm for taking bold action when it is necessary. Nothing important has ever been sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #329

and THAT my dear woman....is idealism that DOESN'T lead to wins..... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #330

It's called REALITY. You get nothing if you don't fight for it. THAT is also Reality. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #331

Its called Hypocrite....because the reality is...you know....YOU Too will vote for the Democrat VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #332

The current iteration of the DemLeadership will not accept Bernie Sanders sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #333

I think in most states he doesn't need the okay from either the National or state party dflprincess Sep 2014 #338

That's good to know, thank you. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #339

Yes, I've had people on this site patiently explain that I could benefit from a basic civics course. pa28 Sep 2014 #337

Best assessment there is. Cleita Sep 2014 #31

... YoungDemCA Sep 2014 #230

The only thing that's "center right" is the money. DirkGently Sep 2014 #2

Well said. n/t Laelth Sep 2014 #8

+1 Veilex Sep 2014 #62

Precisely. Amazing how fast that money makes ethics & morals vanish. raouldukelives Sep 2014 #92

That's right... ReRe Sep 2014 #94

It IS the MONEY, stupid! maddiemom Sep 2014 #165

GASP!!! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #3

Let the people recruit the candidates they want leftstreet Sep 2014 #16

What are you talking about....YOU are expecting to shove a non-democrat....down the VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #24

My, my. n/t leftstreet Sep 2014 #28

Why not? Fuddnik Sep 2014 #30

WTF does the State of Florida have to do with Democratic Underground? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #36

You're talking about ramming non-Democrats down our throats. Fuddnik Sep 2014 #87

Yes I am....and its against TOS to boot VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #210

First, sit down. ReRe Sep 2014 #99

drink why? I am totally in the right....completely.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #211

Oh, believe you me, we are... ReRe Sep 2014 #216

And the NJ Democrats ENDORSED the Republican, Christie over their own very good sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #130

why do YOU care what the Democrats do anywhere? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #212

Why are you defending Dems voting for Republicans? sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #226

As a DUer very familiar with NJ politics explained at the time ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #227

Sorry, I'm very familiar with NJ politics. It's a blue state where Dems had a chance to get sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #228

Is everyone in the Clinton crowd afraid of Bernie dflprincess Sep 2014 #32

I love Bernie....but BERNIE is NOT a DEMOCRAT.....Period end of story! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #37

Sanders has every right to run in the Democratic primaries if he chooses to do so dflprincess Sep 2014 #42

Bernie HAS to become a Democrat first.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #44

My Democratic values tell me it takes more than putting a "D" after your name to be a Democrat dflprincess Sep 2014 #53

Yes...you have to win elections! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #54

"or you wouldn't get so upset whenever the subject of Bernie's running comes up." Veilex Sep 2014 #69

who's upset? Seems to me those that are desperate for Bernie to become a Democrat VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #208

"who's upset?" Considering the near apoplexy you consistently display anytime somone mentions Veilex Sep 2014 #232

Wow....now you are psychic and can diagnose me as apoplexic on the Interwebs? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #235

Don't need to be psychic to see you're full of anger. Veilex Sep 2014 #236

bullshit.....you mistake confidence for anger! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #237

Now I know undoubtedly that you're quite angry. Veilex Sep 2014 #238

no obviously you dont VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #241

If it makes you feel better, you just go on believing that. Veilex Sep 2014 #242

it doesnt make me feel snything frankly VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #243

"Bernie is still not a Democrat so shilling for him here is against TOS" - Then report me. Veilex Sep 2014 #244

Yeah you are..... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #245

"why should I report it" - Or don't... it makes no difference to me. Veilex Sep 2014 #246

do YOU dispute it or not? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #247

"not that I care what you think" - You clearly do. Else you wouldn't try to change my mind... Veilex Sep 2014 #304

Because... ReRe Sep 2014 #101

PLUS ONE, a huge bunch! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #132

Same to you....but more of it! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #214

because YOU got no party...... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #213

You say you're laughing... ReRe Sep 2014 #217

WHAT the Fuck would make you think I am crying? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #248

Again, SWEETHEART... ReRe Sep 2014 #255

Ah calling me SWEETHEART and telling me to calm down VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #257

WRONG! ReRe Sep 2014 #267

Then WTF is YOUR problem? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #270

I said... ReRe Sep 2014 #275

I am defending the Democratic Party....I said I vote for whomever wins the Primary VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #276

You're probably right... ReRe Sep 2014 #278

ONLY if you commit to voting for whomever wins the Democratic Primary.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #280

Si, amigo ReRe Sep 2014 #285

Agreed then.....what I am doing is going after and exposing the pretenders VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #287

Vanilla... I am NOT a pretender... n/t ReRe Sep 2014 #288

I know....You just proved you are not.....you are then not a target..... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #290

Sorry whatchamacallit Sep 2014 #149

Its not my rules or stipulations.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #249

I vote for principles, ideals, and good governance whatchamacallit Sep 2014 #313

I'd say he's more of a Democrat than the blue dogs are. thesquanderer Sep 2014 #45

thats the point....YOU don't get to say! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #46

If Bernie wants the (D) after his name, he'll get it. So I guess HE gets to say. (n/t) thesquanderer Sep 2014 #57

AND even if he did....he would STILL be a longshot to win the primary....and another to win the VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #68

"YOU want to gamble on a long shot" Ahh that old tune... Veilex Sep 2014 #75

Obama was a long shot ... aggiesal Sep 2014 #88

AMEN, Aggiesal, AMEN! You took the words right out of my mouth... Ecumenist Sep 2014 #177

Thank you. This is the closest emoticon I could find to represent a bow. aggiesal Sep 2014 #183

He was an ACTUAL Democrat.....NOT a longshot that an Independent candidate is VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #209

Good to hear, ... aggiesal Sep 2014 #218

And so far he hasn't .....in all these long years he has considered running.....he never has.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #277

Still pretending you're an admin here huh? Union Scribe Sep 2014 #283

I am not the one "pretending" anything...I am a Democrat.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #284

All my previous posts ... aggiesal Sep 2014 #300

THAT gamble was on an actual Democrat.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #250

I'll gamble on a long shot Man from Pickens Sep 2014 #187

WTF have you got to LOSE? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #251

Have you looked at some of what's on this side of the aisle lately? Man from Pickens Sep 2014 #309

And you "get to say". How audacious. Why do you think you can speak for Democrats? nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #67

I don't get to say....its just a fact..... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #252

"YOU don't get to say" - Ummm...actually, its his opinion...so, yes... he does. Veilex Sep 2014 #71

No he doesn't....there are TRUE Democrats who commit to voting VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #253

"No he doesn't" - the world according to VanillaRhapsody Veilex Sep 2014 #307

Uh, yeah he does actually. "Democracy" is what that's known as. closeupready Sep 2014 #147

Democracy is what is known as a Democratic Primary..... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #254

This is still a democracy, we DO get to say!!! A Simple Game Sep 2014 #152

Bernie cannot win against Republicans.....period VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #256

Yes I am independent, although I prefer unaffiliated. I have never tried to hide that fact. A Simple Game Sep 2014 #310

Bernie caucuses with the Democrats, close enough. Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #49

Actually NO not close enough.....he has to become one to run in the Primary.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #51

Calm down, calm down. Bernie is very popular. He is not my savior, I do that on my own. Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #60

Nothing to calm down about....Facts are Facts.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #64

Did I say I would vote for Bernie as an Independent? When did I say that? Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #76

The poster you are responding to is THE most combative and aggressive poster on DU. stillwaiting Sep 2014 #144

Unfortunately, it is almost impossible for any poster who professes to support the president QC Sep 2014 #170

Or just someone who vigorously supports the Democratic Party.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #271

Thanks stillwaiting. She needs to practice quite a bit of still waiting. Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #179

I don't need to calm down....I am standing up and fighting for my party..... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #272

You're putting it mildly. nt navarth Sep 2014 #195

NO I am putting it FIRMLY.....Believe THAT! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #273

When I said putting it mildly, navarth Sep 2014 #302

At least I respect the Democratic Party Primary.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #268

If you have to choose between Hillary Clinton as the Democrat or Bernie as Independent VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #258

A low salt diet and a switch to decaf might help. CentralMass Sep 2014 #73

But what if the very point is to hijack threads QC Sep 2014 #142

and what if THE POINT IS to DEFEND the Democratic Party? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #274

right right right....like I have never seen this idiotic tactic....when you lose the argument VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #259

"Idiotic tactic," indeed. WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2014 #318

did I accuse someone directly? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #319

You're making a lot of assumptions. WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2014 #320

I am currently assuming you are incredibly desperate at this point.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #321

In the immortal words of Sid... WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2014 #322

Yeah....I don't blame ya....hide your tears behind a smiley.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #323

Mahalo. WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2014 #325

Maybe but he is more of xxqqqzme Sep 2014 #93

THAT makes no sense whatsoever..... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #260

Bernies actons dotymed Sep 2014 #157

Bernie is STILL not a Democrat.....no matter WHAT you say... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #261

You continue to make the mistake of believing in labels. Sen Sanders is more of a Democrat than rhett o rick Sep 2014 #65

+1000000 Veilex Sep 2014 #79

Have you ever noticed the title of this Website? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #279

"Let me plus 10000 myself" - yeah, cause no one else will. Veilex Sep 2014 #305

Yeah, "Underground." Fits Sanders, not Hillary. WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2014 #324

+1000 nt laundry_queen Sep 2014 #120

I don't believe in "labels" I believe in the Democratic Party.....don't YOU? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #262

"YOU are expecting to shove a" REAL democrat... and no SHOVING is required. Veilex Sep 2014 #66

You don't have to shove ACTUAL Democrats down ACTUAL Democrats throats... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #263

" You don't have to shove ACTUAL Democrats down ACTUAL Democrats throats" Veilex Sep 2014 #306

"YOU are expecting to shove a non-democrat....down the Democrats throats" LondonReign2 Sep 2014 #180

Clinton IS a Democrat....and the likely winner Democratically elected in the Primary.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #264

Inauthentic Argument Rilgin Sep 2014 #206

I have ALWAYS said....IF by some strange set of circumstances Bernie wins the VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #265

You apparently support the oligarchy. Tell us how H. Clinton-Sachs isn't a tool of the Oligarchy. rhett o rick Sep 2014 #72

Will Sanders be better at dealing with the existing oligarchy than someone else? Recursion Sep 2014 #100

I don't disagree with any of that. But I want to go out fighting. I am sure you know the rhett o rick Sep 2014 #110

Except we're not "going out". We have to live with whoever winds up as President Recursion Sep 2014 #114

"and elections are one of our chances to nudge that economy and society in a slightly different rhett o rick Sep 2014 #115

Sorry, nudging is what there is Recursion Sep 2014 #117

We no longer live in a democratic republic but an oligarchy that is still willing to keep some of rhett o rick Sep 2014 #153

Spoken like a true Independent.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #281

The only place we hear that "both parties are the same" is from you. rhett o rick Sep 2014 #289

I am a Democrat....I pledge to vote for whomever wins the Democratic Primary VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #292

I am a Democrat, but I believe in being honest and open-minded and won't vote rhett o rick Sep 2014 #296

If you are not pledging to vote whom your fellow Democrats decide in the Democratic Primary VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #297

If Bernie runs FlaGranny Sep 2014 #148

The general public doesn't know how much trouble they are in. The Corp-Media propaganda and rhett o rick Sep 2014 #154

you crack me up questionseverything Sep 2014 #176

can YOU link to that information? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #282

Do you mean this information? rhett o rick Sep 2014 #293

OOOOOOHHHHH Now I get it.....the Federal Reserve shit is stuck in your craw..... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #294

Your method of discussion is dishonest and tiresome. I am done with you. rhett o rick Sep 2014 #298

YES! Tiiring because I speak the truth and you cannot get around THAT! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #299

ty for providing the link questionseverything Sep 2014 #334

Sorry but I can't see the responses to this post. I must have put someone on ignore. nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #335

This message was self-deleted by its author rhett o rick Sep 2014 #291

PLUS ONE, a huge bunch! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #133

No actually I support Democracy....and the Democratic Primary election.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #266

We get it, Hillary is the only hope we have! Blah, blah, blah! Nt Logical Sep 2014 #98

Still terrified by progressive values, I see Scootaloo Sep 2014 #102

Because we want our party back. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #122

You are almost too funny to put on ignore corkhead Sep 2014 #174

I like how you think, and I hope this is just how it plays out. CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2014 #4

Yeah....deep thinkers my ass too! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #5

k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Sep 2014 #7

Idiots! He may GAIN anti-corporate right wingers too! cascadiance Sep 2014 #9

Oh you mean like the Libertarians? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #48

Absolutely, and positively, WRONG ReRe Sep 2014 #90

I posted what Bernie said about Veterans on my FB page and the republican relatives Autumn Sep 2014 #156

Damn right! n/t ReRe Sep 2014 #215

Bernie does exceedingly well with Republicans and conservatives in his state... Veilex Sep 2014 #89

I was just looking at the 2012 map Mnpaul Sep 2014 #203

Its rather remarkable. Veilex Sep 2014 #229

I have Vermont-envy. nt Stardust Sep 2014 #231

center right is a turd way republicon scam noiretextatique Sep 2014 #10

and Bernie Sanders as a Democrat is an Independents scam! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #50

Do you listen to yourself? F4lconF16 Sep 2014 #58

Yes I do....do you? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #220

absolutely absurd noiretextatique Sep 2014 #221

Sen Sanders will have a hard time fighting The Powers That Be's candidate but rhett o rick Sep 2014 #70

Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #83

i hope so too. i have been waiting since 1980 noiretextatique Sep 2014 #222

that's silly...and childish noiretextatique Sep 2014 #219

PLUS ONE, a huge bunch! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #134

Bingo! Scuba Sep 2014 #11

Tell them to quit having a fit. He will not run as a 3rd party candidate. He is not a spoiler. He jwirr Sep 2014 #12

America *thinks* it is center right. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #14

Deep thinkers? Rex Sep 2014 #15

That's because they're deep in their own caca de vaca. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #18

vaca = cow. You mean toro. nt stevenleser Sep 2014 #34

Maybe they meant cow paddy. Rex Sep 2014 #47

DURec leftstreet Sep 2014 #17

He's only named post offices!!!111!1! morningfog Sep 2014 #19

You really made me laugh--thank you so much! nt Stardust Sep 2014 #233

Voting for the lesser of two is what makes us effectively a center right nation. FlatStanley Sep 2014 #20

.... 840high Sep 2014 #25

? FlatStanley Sep 2014 #113

! Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 #205

Well ssid. K&R 99Forever Sep 2014 #21

I think Bernie's problem is the media certainly will go after his "socialist" tag but will it stick? Johonny Sep 2014 #22

Exactly. tazkcmo Sep 2014 #204

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #23

Other than nominating scotus positions though cstanleytech Sep 2014 #26

A Democratic President will probably ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #38

Yeah. There's no Presidential Gravitational Field that moves Congress to the left Recursion Sep 2014 #112

On the big issues, it really doesn't matter. Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #129

I like what Bernie says and represents. indivisibleman Sep 2014 #27

I hope it does happen Bryce Butler Sep 2014 #190

We have Deep Thinkers? Where Are They? In a Sub-Basement at the Bottom of a Mine? Demeter Sep 2014 #29

I think this can be traced back to the Clinton camp. eom Cleita Sep 2014 #33

The way to determine that is via a primary. I am in favor of Bernie joining the Democratic Primary stevenleser Sep 2014 #35

Hear Hear, Sir! The Magistrate Sep 2014 #39

I'll do you one better, Sir. smokey nj Sep 2014 #43

I've got a brother... ReRe Sep 2014 #104

Oh, I don't know: Bradley pushed Gore to the center by my reading Recursion Sep 2014 #119

The Difference, Sir, Is That Sen. Sanders Has Something To Say, And A Bit Of The 'X' Factor As Well The Magistrate Sep 2014 #150

K & R !!! WillyT Sep 2014 #40

That is what the deep thinkers get paid the big bucks for. zeemike Sep 2014 #41

Fuck the deep thinkers, they don't have to struggle like the rest of us. Phlem Sep 2014 #52

No, it's based on the notion that America is a CENTRIST country... brooklynite Sep 2014 #56

He doesn't. But a primary will make that pretty clear. stevenleser Sep 2014 #63

Bernie has always won his elections by making sense JEB Sep 2014 #59

It's called... ReRe Sep 2014 #105

And its all too uncommon in DC these days. JEB Sep 2014 #107

Isn't it great... ReRe Sep 2014 #108

I think the people are longing for that. JEB Sep 2014 #111

"Deep Thinkers" onecaliberal Sep 2014 #74

Yeah, Bernie is a disaster to their plans. Cleita Sep 2014 #77

I suspect Bernie doesn't run as an independent. And if he does, he drops out before the election Hippo_Tron Sep 2014 #78

Are you sure you don't mean the Party's Deep Throats? KamaAina Sep 2014 #80

... BlueCaliDem Sep 2014 #91

The big thinkers are absolutely correct. The Democratic Party Machine has decided that rhett o rick Sep 2014 #81

YEP! His chief of staff has called us on the left "F-ING RETARDED!" and smiled doing it! cascadiance Sep 2014 #171

Yes I hear you. I think for Obama to get to the presidency he had to make aliances with rhett o rick Sep 2014 #191

Are these the same Deep Thinkers that thought the IWR vote was a good idea? Warren DeMontague Sep 2014 #82

Yeah. Them. Them's the ones. Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 #164

F*uck the party deep thinkers Joe Turner Sep 2014 #85

Thr parties deep thinkers pocoloco Sep 2014 #86

Love you, Jackpine. love_katz Sep 2014 #95

Ah, yes, the silent majority myth. Conservative activists fall for this too Recursion Sep 2014 #96

I think you said it all. The Conservative Democratic Party Machine (H. Clinton-Sachs) rhett o rick Sep 2014 #116

OMG. I heard all this when we beat you with Barak. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #123

Huh? I was an Obama supporter pretty early in the primaries Recursion Sep 2014 #124

Not true at all, he ran to her left. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #166

He ran on a health care plan without a mandate Recursion Sep 2014 #167

And with a public option. Also anti-war. And anti-costly trade: grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #169

+1 treestar Sep 2014 #146

LOL. I guess it's pointless to even *suggest* anything but the Status Quo, eh Recursion? Romulox Sep 2014 #159

Deja Vu Z_California Sep 2014 #308

I'm hoping he runs in the primiary and if he doesn't receive enough popularity, C Moon Sep 2014 #97

I'm skeptical of that. Primary challenges make Democrats move to the center Recursion Sep 2014 #103

+1 C Moon Sep 2014 #126

"Primary challenges make Democrats move to the center" LondonReign2 Sep 2014 #184

No. I want the farthest left electable candidate (nt) Recursion Sep 2014 #185

K&R ReRe Sep 2014 #106

Rec #100 nt Zorra Sep 2014 #109

Thank God you weren't around in 1960 when Kennedy was running rpannier Sep 2014 #121

JFK the tax-cutting hawk? Recursion Sep 2014 #125

It's not a reaction to JFK rpannier Sep 2014 #128

The notion among the Corportions' deep thinkers is that Hillary can be bought. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #127

PLUS ONE, a huge bunch! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #135

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #131

Bernie's too principled to leave his party of one to take filthy "third way" dollars, right? Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #136

The beltway insiders think Hawaii is not part of the United States, and it's "too exotic". Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2014 #137

" . . . care about basic quality-of-live issues . . " Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #138

the gnewz media only accepts vichy democrats. wall street MUST BE APPEASED. pansypoo53219 Sep 2014 #139

K&R NealK Sep 2014 #140

STOP with the "Inevi-Hillary" already!!! Strat54 Sep 2014 #143

The center is by definition where the mass of voters are going to be treestar Sep 2014 #145

Somehow, we on the left PatrickforO Sep 2014 #151

The "centrists" sound scared. nt Romulox Sep 2014 #158

If we had Deep Thinkers in our Democratic party we wouldn't be in the mess we are in, Autumn Sep 2014 #160

"If the Democrats have any moxie at all" malthaussen Sep 2014 #161

Amen! marym625 Sep 2014 #162

They worry about money to fund a campaign. You want to see grassroots support Ed Suspicious Sep 2014 #163

Sounds like DLC getting worried about their game plan. Good! on point Sep 2014 #168

Why would Bernie be a disaster? DFW Sep 2014 #172

. libodem Sep 2014 #181

I could count the number of Democratic Progressive dog Sep 2014 #182

That means that we are not going to support the possible candidacy of an untested candidate. djean111 Sep 2014 #269

No it doesn't, Progressive dog Sep 2014 #286

And I can count the number of second effort Democratic nominees on a Donkey's claw. pa28 Sep 2014 #336

Thank you Jackpine radical. avaistheone1 Sep 2014 #186

voting majority counts not people who don't vote jonjensen Sep 2014 #189

The party HAS deep thinkers??? nt Plucketeer Sep 2014 #192

Well said! Utopian Leftist Sep 2014 #193

Would these be the deep thinkers who gave us NSA spying, torture and wall street crooks? whereisjustice Sep 2014 #196

Here's one of them now, Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 #198

Bernie would champion the 99%. AtomicKitten Sep 2014 #197

Kick. Scuba Sep 2014 #199

Why not? MFrohike Sep 2014 #200

I wouldn't vote for him... 3rdwaydem Sep 2014 #202

says the guy in "financial services" bunnies Sep 2014 #207

I thought they were all on their new hangout Netropolitan. adirondacker Sep 2014 #223

You're not a deep thinker if you believe Bernie Sanders is a threat to anyone BeyondGeography Sep 2014 #301

A candidate like Bernie would be good for the Party.... kentuck Sep 2014 #303