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KittyWampus

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18. a fraction of the benefit than would be had by mass transit. It's like crowing over energy savings

Wed Sep 17, 2014, 11:58 AM

Sep 2014

you get using X technology but you build a house 5x larger and use 10X more energy. In the end you either still end up using more energy over all or there is no benefit at all.

Mass transit solves the problems of too many drivers, too much traffic etc.

Sorry, on an individual level I would only support these for severely handicapped.

On larger scale only for mass transit.

Americans need to get over their sick addiction to individual cars. It's sophomoric, expensive on so many levels and dysfunctional.

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Audi gets first California permit to test self-driving cars on public roads and highways. [View all] CK_John Sep 2014 OP

The self driving cars will be safer than the texting while driving cars. Todays_Illusion Sep 2014 #1

I agree but I believe they will displace millions of middle class jobs. CK_John Sep 2014 #2

What will be the standard of measuring a human's value if it is not on the value of their labor? Todays_Illusion Sep 2014 #3

I don't understand your question? CK_John Sep 2014 #6

What jobs? I can't imagine what jobs would be displaced? NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #4

I would thing UPS and most 18 wheelers, taxis alone would be a very large group. CK_John Sep 2014 #5

Trucking, delivery, bus driving. Just to name three off the top of my head. politicat Sep 2014 #7

I think some of the first uses will be over the road truckers. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2014 #8

Spain is testing convoys of 15 18 wheelers with only a driver in the lead truck. CK_John Sep 2014 #10

And I think that's the worst place to start. politicat Sep 2014 #13

+1 nt MADem Sep 2014 #30

you are addicted to this whole self-driving-car thing LOL snooper2 Sep 2014 #15

Tunnel vision blocks out 99% of the big picture. CK_John Sep 2014 #17

Self driving car only gets tunnel vision if relays #3, #17 and rear#9 fail snooper2 Sep 2014 #20

Let me try to answer, the technology is here, it will have great social change. CK_John Sep 2014 #21

So when we get ice storm here in DFW can I tell my self driving truck to drift down Plano Parkway? snooper2 Sep 2014 #22

Its up to the auto companies to present their products, this OP is about the politics. CK_John Sep 2014 #25

As does an irrational obsession... LanternWaste Sep 2014 #26

How so is it any different from thinking if Sanders will run as an IND or not? CK_John Sep 2014 #31

And the introduction of the gas powered automobile hurt the blacksmiths. Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #9

But the timing of the introduction of this technology melds with the 2016 elections. CK_John Sep 2014 #12

And the timing of the U.S. auto industries development coincided with the Taft/Parker elections... LanternWaste Sep 2014 #28

So rather than benefit the environment and society by providing mass transit> KittyWampus Sep 2014 #11

The technology is here and these issues will need to be faced. I'm just trying to avoid waiting CK_John Sep 2014 #14

I appreciate your bringing it up as a potential issue. KittyWampus Sep 2014 #19

Actually, there is a potential for major environmental benefit. Xithras Sep 2014 #16

a fraction of the benefit than would be had by mass transit. It's like crowing over energy savings KittyWampus Sep 2014 #18

It's not really about getting over it The2ndWheel Sep 2014 #27

Millions fewer cars, ultimately. politicat Sep 2014 #24

Easier to imagine mass transit like the rest of the first world countries have. KittyWampus Sep 2014 #36

Depends where you are. politicat Sep 2014 #43

I can't see this PasadenaTrudy Sep 2014 #23

The national fleet turns over about every 8 years. politicat Sep 2014 #33

I love driving PasadenaTrudy Sep 2014 #35

"This is going to be the biggest issue in 2016" Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #29

Name something else that will effect every voter in the country. CK_John Sep 2014 #32

I will love it when I can get one belcffub Sep 2014 #34

Is anyone testing a self-driving truck? KamaAina Sep 2014 #37

Below is link for truck testing in Nevada, Spain and Japan. CK_John Sep 2014 #38

It has to be done KamaAina Sep 2014 #39

You called it KamaAina Sep 2014 #47

Humans Need Not Apply (Unemployability in the next 10 years) Bosonic Sep 2014 #40

That was excellent presentation, and one of the reasons I'm pushing to lower CK_John Sep 2014 #45

Should we have legislated against automobiles LiberalAndProud Sep 2014 #41

I have no position but I believe that our party needs to debate and get one fast. CK_John Sep 2014 #42

I understand. LiberalAndProud Sep 2014 #44

I would push for limiting self driving to the interstates during a transition period. CK_John Sep 2014 #46