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merrily

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71. Agree. I have criticized Obama plenty, but never said he was just like Bush.

Wed Sep 17, 2014, 02:27 PM

Sep 2014

Then again, I have never compared Hillary to him, either.

I would not even compare Dimson to his father or Reagan.

That fucker and that whole fucker of an administration was in a class by itself.

At least I hope and pray so. Never want to see their like again.

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Hillary Clinton denounces income inequality in populist speech [View all] pnwmom Sep 2014 OP

her actions have consistently belied this speech cali Sep 2014 #1

Yeah, right. pnwmom Sep 2014 #2

Big honking clue: I said HER actions. I didn't mention bill, did I? cali Sep 2014 #10

You don't think she's changed her views since 2005. I think the 2008 financial crisis changed them. pnwmom Sep 2014 #80

I see no evidence of that. Her push for fracking, her support for the TPP cali Sep 2014 #93

start here pipoman Sep 2014 #11

Hillary supported her husband as the First Lady. Would you expect her to oppose him publicly? pnwmom Sep 2014 #79

What indication has she ever made that she opposes pipoman Sep 2014 #94

TPP. TPPIP. nt magical thyme Sep 2014 #69

There is no TPP yet and she's no longer part of whatever negotiations are pnwmom Sep 2014 #78

oh please DonCoquixote Sep 2014 #89

Wrong! She never advocated going to war in Syria. bornskeptic Sep 2014 #91

and what part of that is not war? DonCoquixote Sep 2014 #104

ok, here ya go DonCoquixote Sep 2014 #88

are you that ignorant that you are not even aware of her voting record? still_one Sep 2014 #9

I pay attention to her contradictions. cali Sep 2014 #12

fair rebuttal, but not everything in that record is a contradiction, and a lot is pro-labor, and she still_one Sep 2014 #24

Was not aware of some of this...thanks. randys1 Sep 2014 #76

I understand how one may not agree with everything, but I really disagree with the characterization still_one Sep 2014 #85

I think the speech is trickier than that hfojvt Sep 2014 #46

Hillary is a principle architect of the TTP which will hugely exacerbate income inequality cali Sep 2014 #3

Oh, that TPP that is still a work in progress, and of which you have no way of knowing pnwmom Sep 2014 #5

And why is that? pipoman Sep 2014 #14

A secret work in progress that we know will not benefit working class Americans. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #97

Good for her! Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #4

I will whenever I want to. I'm sick of ignorant people misstating her positions. n/t pnwmom Sep 2014 #7

You're perfectly free to. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #13

You attacked someone else for posting a link that I hadn't seen before. stevenleser Sep 2014 #16

He'd posted it before under another comment of mine just a day or so back. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #37

I think in this case hfojvt Sep 2014 #36

misstating it, misrepresenting it, and obviously not even aware of her voting record. What that still_one Sep 2014 #15

go for it. I'm sick of people pretending Hillary is anything but what she is cali Sep 2014 #18

Good, good, and double-good. Laelth Sep 2014 #6

Lol...yeah, right pipoman Sep 2014 #17

In other news pipoman Sep 2014 #8

These drafts are works in progress put together by people/countries with competing interests pnwmom Sep 2014 #20

When there is a "final draft" nobody can see it but the privileged few pipoman Sep 2014 #21

She opposed CAFTA, which followed NAFTA. She already changed course. nt pnwmom Sep 2014 #23

Where? when? Has she came out against TPP? pipoman Sep 2014 #28

There's nothing to come out against when the draft is still being negotiated. n/t pnwmom Sep 2014 #31

Lol.. you are too much... pipoman Sep 2014 #32

Secretary Clinton Comments on the Transpacific System (TPP) nationalize the fed Sep 2014 #19

As SoS, her job was to represent POTUS's positions, not her own. And the agreement pnwmom Sep 2014 #22

So what IS her position on the TPP? nt nationalize the fed Sep 2014 #26

She won't have one until it's final. And she isn't a governmental official anymore, pnwmom Sep 2014 #27

The coup in the Honduras was not supported by the President LawDeeDah Sep 2014 #54

I'm interested in what Hillary supposedly did in Honduras. Do you have a link for that? pnwmom Sep 2014 #82

Not handy, no. It will be easy to find on googly LawDeeDah Sep 2014 #87

If it's that easy, you can do it yourself to back up your claim. arcane1 Sep 2014 #102

This is a subject some people don't want to know about. LawDeeDah Sep 2014 #103

LOLOL. Good one! nt Romulox Sep 2014 #25

Re-branding. Different wrapper. Same contents. Don't buy it. merrily Sep 2014 #29

Your post doesn't contain a single specific. She was an extremely popular Senator pnwmom Sep 2014 #30

Doesn't need specifics. I think every DUer will get that post, merrily Sep 2014 #34

The haters will pile on, but you have to admit this about Hilary... joeybee12 Sep 2014 #33

That's why she wears pantsuits. And is trying to rebrand. merrily Sep 2014 #35

she will give lip service to the struggling hfojvt Sep 2014 #38

You're preaching to the choir. I'm not Ready for Hillary and merrily Sep 2014 #41

Presidential primaries are odd things hfojvt Sep 2014 #45

Racially tinged campaign? joeybee12 Sep 2014 #39

Yep. It was racially tinged. And no, not because Obama made it out that way. merrily Sep 2014 #43

Yep, it was. hifiguy Sep 2014 #63

I was not even watching Olberman. merrily Sep 2014 #66

KO made a pretty big deal out of it. hifiguy Sep 2014 #68

I typed that post without refreshing my recollection and it was six years ago. merrily Sep 2014 #70

As I said, I am not going to type out all the stuff. Too much of it. merrily Sep 2014 #49

No kidding. Puglover Sep 2014 #64

Le sigh. A lot of that kind of thing from DU's center right. merrily Sep 2014 #67

So does Rand Paul, even if that wind changes directions 12 times in a day. bullwinkle428 Sep 2014 #40

Yay Hillary! hollowdweller Sep 2014 #42

Let me guess. You were for her before you heard this and would have voted merrily Sep 2014 #44

Let me guess. It doesn't matter what she ever says or what she ever actually voted for pnwmom Sep 2014 #48

Guessed wrong. In 2007-08 I was for Obama. merrily Sep 2014 #58

Even better. Your mind has been closed up tight since 2008. What an admission. n/t pnwmom Sep 2014 #81

Clear this with your BFFs at Goldman, Hillary? hifiguy Sep 2014 #47

Well, at least she didn't say it in one of her $200k paid speeches. n/t hughee99 Sep 2014 #50

Yes, it's such a shame that she's donating all that speech money to the Clinton Foundation. pnwmom Sep 2014 #51

You mean the speeches she's made at colleges over the last 18 months, right? hughee99 Sep 2014 #61

No, I was referring to ALL her speaking fees, not just to non-profits like colleges. pnwmom Sep 2014 #73

Did you read on? hughee99 Sep 2014 #75

Yeah, so? I don't think she's a liar, but we'll find out when she runs (if she does) and releases pnwmom Sep 2014 #77

I didn't see any direct quotes from Clinton in this article. hughee99 Sep 2014 #83

Did I read that the Clinton Foundation's finances are being looked at? LawDeeDah Sep 2014 #96

That is really sticking her neck out! LawDeeDah Sep 2014 #52

Does she sound like a Republican to you? Many people are insisting there's no difference pnwmom Sep 2014 #53

There is a huge difference between her and the GOP LawDeeDah Sep 2014 #62

Agree. I have criticized Obama plenty, but never said he was just like Bush. merrily Sep 2014 #71

I didn't think Hillary and Barack were far apart in 2008 and I don't now either. pnwmom Sep 2014 #72

I've always felt that at the Presidents core lies a man of integrity LawDeeDah Sep 2014 #86

OMG. I can't roll my eyes enough at her pandering. closeupready Sep 2014 #55

Did she make this speech before she was "flat broke"? Or, after her Goldman Sachs gig? Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #56

When Bob Dylan said in 1966.... Koch Ebola Sep 2014 #57

'populist' KG Sep 2014 #59

No link: Positions on progressive taxes, support for unions, regulation, safety net, etc.? n/t pampango Sep 2014 #60

Pathetic pandering BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #65

Must be running for POTUS. Rex Sep 2014 #74

Hillary can stand on her record, no doubt about it, who else can stand up to her experience? Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #84

I guess she saw Bernie on Press the Meat last weekend KamaAina Sep 2014 #90

She's a time traveller then, because her speech was 4 months ago. n/t pnwmom Sep 2014 #101

Btw BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #92

Breaking: Hillary Clinton says she likes puppies. LawDeeDah Sep 2014 #95

Repubs hate puppies. n/t pnwmom Sep 2014 #100

link for the curious (like me) steve2470 Sep 2014 #98

Thanks. I got interrupted and forgot to put that in. n/t pnwmom Sep 2014 #99