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Cyrano

(15,388 posts) Wed Sep 17, 2014, 04:10 PM Sep 2014

"How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?" [View all]

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That's a quote from John Kerry, a decorated Vietnam War vet regarding the "mistake" of the Vietnam War.

Why is he on TV asking us to go after ISIS? Who would know better about mistakes than John Kerry. I think he's an outstanding man. Why is he peddling this? Does he really believe it? This is a guy who was twice wounded in Vietnam. Does he really, really, belileve what he's saying?

I've always admired Kerry. WTF is he doing??

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"How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?" [View all] Cyrano Sep 2014 OP

Kerry is just another puppet doing the bidding of the Puppet Masters. truedelphi Sep 2014 #1

Please, please, don't call Kerry "another puppet." Cyrano Sep 2014 #9

I am sorry but in 2004 he and he alone left the voters in Ohio out to dry. truedelphi Sep 2014 #33

I know Im reapeating myself.... mylye2222 Sep 2014 #64

Thanks a lot Cyrano. mylye2222 Sep 2014 #47

They're all just puppets. bigwillq Sep 2014 #16

I thinks he is personnaly holding hks nose at his own war calling. mylye2222 Sep 2014 #35

ISIS is SCARY. They kill people and chop their heads off on videos! Warpy Sep 2014 #2

They have Terrorist Babies too!!!! Katashi_itto Sep 2014 #14

I heard an interesting discussion about this recently - about showing the true cost of war. calimary Sep 2014 #19

Agreed, having fire and blood and body counts in their living rooms every night Warpy Sep 2014 #20

Great history/life lesson, calmary. Cyrano Sep 2014 #24

DING DING DING tazkcmo Sep 2014 #28

He is an outstanding man, and a smart one. babylonsister Sep 2014 #3

Of course he is. mylye2222 Sep 2014 #61

We aren't going to let Iraq collapse, and get chased out of our embassy TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #4

because nobody is going to be the last man to die for the mistake? magical thyme Sep 2014 #5

Exactly. Never ending. n/t n2doc Sep 2014 #6

Our admiration for John Kerry was misplaced. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #7

Your despicable statement is totally misplaced. mylye2222 Sep 2014 #36

I got it right didn't I? Enthusiast Sep 2014 #40

No. you got it wrong. mylye2222 Sep 2014 #41

Those attacks just added to his camouflage. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #44

Please. stop that ugly stance. mylye2222 Sep 2014 #45

My record shows I was a strong supporter of Kerry in 2004 Enthusiast Sep 2014 #49

He did indeed. mylye2222 Sep 2014 #50

How do you ask someone to be the NEXT to die for a mistake? FiveGoodMen Sep 2014 #8

That's what I was thinking, as they try to come up with a reason we'll believe to start back up NightWatcher Sep 2014 #18

I don't know if this situation is really comprable to Vietnam. Warren DeMontague Sep 2014 #10

I'm not saying that those in the future will Cyrano Sep 2014 #11

A couple points, here. One, Kerry said those words on April 22, 1971. Warren DeMontague Sep 2014 #31

It might be worse. Certainly both were unjustified. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #43

Fucked up, ain't it? nt ChisolmTrailDem Sep 2014 #12

To quote Huey Freeman: Aerows Sep 2014 #26

That guy died a long time ago. LittleBlue Sep 2014 #13

Damn, maybe he did. And maybe Cyrano Sep 2014 #17

That young JK never died. He is just .... mylye2222 Sep 2014 #37

After the chemical attack in Syria he was unbearable. I gave up on him. Glimmer of Hope Sep 2014 #22

And didn't bother to notice that he was instrumental in getting rid of the Syrian chemical weapons karynnj Sep 2014 #70

Of course. mylye2222 Sep 2014 #71

As SoS, perhaps he'll find an answer for that question. hughee99 Sep 2014 #15

i'm not sure i believe in "mistakes" here Adam051188 Sep 2014 #21

Iraq 2.0 was a monstrous mistake. GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #32

thanks. Adam051188 Sep 2014 #34

power corrupts They_Live Sep 2014 #23

John Kerry LOL n/t KG Sep 2014 #25

Same way tazkcmo Sep 2014 #27

It's not always that simple. Cyrano Sep 2014 #29

You still tazkcmo Sep 2014 #30

I guess he's finding out KG Sep 2014 #38

I'll not question John Kerry madokie Sep 2014 #39

K&R. for u. mylye2222 Sep 2014 #42

Agreed. Foreign Policy in Iraq... YvonneCa Sep 2014 #46

Thanks, YvonneCa, mylye2222 Sep 2014 #57

It is really difficult to see Dems who fight for the same values consistently... YvonneCa Sep 2014 #58

Possibly because ISIS is not Vietnam. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2014 #48

Nothing in common with Vietnam... Orsino Sep 2014 #53

Both those criteria have been met, and significant numbers of Americans dying is unlikely Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2014 #54

One is a "significant" number. n/t Orsino Sep 2014 #56

Never trust Skull and Bones Reter Sep 2014 #51

Lost? n/t YvonneCa Sep 2014 #59

No! Only conspirationist I think. mylye2222 Sep 2014 #60

It's a lot easier than asking thiousands of men after him to die for a mistake. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #52

it was no mistake! n/t wildbilln864 Sep 2014 #55

He was wounded three times and yes, he does believe in what he is doing karynnj Sep 2014 #62

K&R !!!!! mylye2222 Sep 2014 #63

He sold out. Long ago. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #65

Always funny to see how people can mylye2222 Sep 2014 #66

I've bashed both, Hillary even more, for backing Bush's wars. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #67

I didnt targeted you especially. mylye2222 Sep 2014 #68

Tell them they are not dying for a mistake. dilby Sep 2014 #69