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MineralMan

(150,972 posts)
16. Not really.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 10:39 AM
Sep 2014

Those systems are not really designed to deal with individuals who might be traveling to join terrorist organizations. The phone/bank records is probably the only one of the three that applies, and those are pretty much overwhelmed right now, given the vast amount of data that is collected.

Learning that Abdi from St. Paul is traveling to Syria isn't all that simple really. From my understanding, most of this travel is done in segments, with only the one originating in the US able to be monitored in real time, and then pretty much only if the person's name is on some registry of people being tracked.

I'm not sure what Warren was talking about in any sort of detail. The US is able, right now, to know who is leaving the country on an airline, but if a ticket only includes the first destination, purchase of additional tickets after that person arrives at the stated destination isn't really trackable in advance for US citizens with passports.

The problem is not a large one, and not that many are doing this, so it may be a problem that doesn't need to be managed so carefully. I don't know, frankly. But Warren has identified a gap in our knowing who is heading out of the US to join some terrorist organization. How that intelligence gap might be filled is hard to imagine, though, I think.

If Abdi is going to fly from MSP to some airport in Greece or Turkey, we might know that. Where he goes from there isn't so easy.

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Yes, it's about time. The open border movement is a Libertarian Concept. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #1
This is horrible... TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #2
Yeah, there's always a bogeyman out there Warpy Sep 2014 #4
Oh yes, lets expand our intelgence gathering to spy a bit more on millions of Americans Agnosticsherbet Sep 2014 #3
Or how about moondust Sep 2014 #5
Bad idea JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #6
Her Red roots are showing. GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #7
and then we will start tracking them here. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #8
Why not take it a step further? Feral Child Sep 2014 #9
Always had to declare where and why. My reason was always "Personal," but "Business" was an option. WinkyDink Sep 2014 #17
I should have been more specific Feral Child Sep 2014 #22
Oh, the old Pre-Emptive Permission trick! ;-) WinkyDink Sep 2014 #23
Yep. Feral Child Sep 2014 #24
Warren speaks like someone who was a Republican into her 40s. nt Romulox Sep 2014 #10
Ouch! malaise Sep 2014 #12
What "our rights" treestar Sep 2014 #11
Way back in the late 1960s, if I wanted to travel outside of the US, MineralMan Sep 2014 #13
And we can use JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #15
Not really. MineralMan Sep 2014 #16
I disagree with this point . . . JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #18
I understand. But review doesn't stop Abdi from MineralMan Sep 2014 #19
Ahh see JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #20
Because the NSA is too busy passing home made porn around. L0oniX Sep 2014 #14
And then there was one... FiveGoodMen Sep 2014 #21
What do you mean? Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #25
I am going to Switzerland in December for a week and then I am going to Mauritius CBGLuthier Sep 2014 #26
Sounds awesome. Pretty darned close to paradise on Earth FrodosPet Sep 2014 #28
Are we on Red Alert yet? Time to "Smoke 'em out"? Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #27
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