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lunatica

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Sat Sep 20, 2014, 12:31 PM Sep 2014

Anyone who claims that the NFL has less 'domestic abuse' than the general population [View all]

Is either lying or stupid. And anyone who claims it's a "Black" thing is also wrong. And anyone judging the women for not leaving and therefore implying that the women somehow have only themselves to blame is also wrong.

My son's father was and is what every single person who he's ever met believes is a true gentleman, a kind person, and wonderful catch for me and a stroke of luck for my son. People used to tell me how lucky I was even as he was beating me behind closed doors and he was telling me that if I ever left him he would kill my mother and take my son away.

It was so bad that I ended up running away and abducting my toddler son because eventually he would abuse him as soon as he could. Once I shoved his arm away as he was raising it to hit my son who hadn't yet learned how to walk on his own, because my son wouldn't go to sleep. Needless to say I got the beating instead. Once he came home drunk with a gun and waved it in my face telling me he would kill me. When he passed out I took the bullets out of the gun and hid them on the back side of my painting. I took the gun and jammed it under the kitchen sink between the sink and the vanity. He never found the gun and it's probably still where I put it. But if he had I would probably be dead. Why wouldn't I believe his threats when he screamed them at me while punching and kicking me? These examples are only two out of many, many beatings.

When the opportunity presented itself I took my son and left the country because that was the only way I knew I could protect my son from ever being abused by him. My family helped me when I finally told them what was happening. I had kept silent because I believed he would kill them. He had convinced me completely because I had first hand experience on what he was capable of.

My point is that the few domestic abusers we know about is most likely only the tip of the iceberg. How many times have we heard how shocked everyone is that these outstanding men actually beat their wives and kids. Fooling everyone is how they get away with it because they're convinced they know the men intimately. They don't know shit.

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Agree, but I don't hear that claim being made. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #1
If you watch both CNN and MSNBC lately lunatica Sep 2014 #3
What's the abuse rate of NFL players? NobodyHere Sep 2014 #2
According to the apologists I've seen on CNN and MSNBC it's miniscule lunatica Sep 2014 #4
what I've heard over and over is it's about the same as for the general public cali Sep 2014 #5
There have been quite a few claiming the beatings of children lunatica Sep 2014 #6
That would probably originate with Charles Barkley Lonusca Sep 2014 #38
So we should accept your numbers on the problem? former9thward Sep 2014 #40
The statisticians at FiveThirtyEight must be stupid LittleBlue Sep 2014 #7
Statistics are very easy to manipulate lunatica Sep 2014 #9
This one is much better than any other I've seen LittleBlue Sep 2014 #20
I didn't say that lunatica Sep 2014 #21
Why would they be equal? LittleBlue Sep 2014 #24
Believe what you will lunatica Sep 2014 #26
Did your ex have the NFL to hide behind? mythology Sep 2014 #22
No. My ex didn't have to hide behind anything lunatica Sep 2014 #23
Yes, just like polls when you don't like the results. former9thward Sep 2014 #41
those who claim that have statistics. you have a rant Doctor_J Sep 2014 #8
My post is about how facts are very hard to come by when lunatica Sep 2014 #10
I think it's the way you expressed yourself and that you didn't post any evidence. cali Sep 2014 #13
^^^This^^^ ScreamingMeemie Sep 2014 #15
I think you're trying too hard lunatica Sep 2014 #18
Judging by the replies I've gotten you have a point lunatica Sep 2014 #16
I get that. thank you. cali Sep 2014 #19
Anyone who posts a thread refuting stats without actual stats to ScreamingMeemie Sep 2014 #11
Are you claiming I need to defend my position as an abused spouse? lunatica Sep 2014 #12
No, you need to include stats to defend your position as someone who ScreamingMeemie Sep 2014 #14
I did not say the NFL has higher stats lunatica Sep 2014 #17
Then I hereby invoke my right to not believe you. Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #25
If you read my OP you'll find no mention of stats lunatica Sep 2014 #27
"Anyone who claims that the NFL has less 'domestic abuse' than the general population Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #28
What you believe is only your business lunatica Sep 2014 #29
In other words, you got nothing. nt Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #30
You're entitled to believe whatever you want lunatica Sep 2014 #31
OMG...anyone who has been near a Jr. High or High School or College know that the jocks are libdem4life Sep 2014 #32
thank you! lunatica Sep 2014 #34
Prove it with statistics. 840high Sep 2014 #33
LOL! lunatica Sep 2014 #35
I am very sorry. I really am. You threw out 840high Sep 2014 #37
What evidence do you have to support the claim in your title? Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2014 #36
You're wrong. zappaman Sep 2014 #39
All I know from the responses on this thread lunatica Sep 2014 #42
Get a grip. You called those who asked for stats liars ksoze Sep 2014 #43
Guide me to any stats that will quantify my opinion and experience lunatica Sep 2014 #44
Maybe you need to change your thread title ksoze Sep 2014 #45
The general population is worse... Bigmack Sep 2014 #46
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