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56. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality."

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Suspicions Run Deep in Iraq That C.I.A. and the Islamic State Are United [View all] cali Sep 2014 OP

Unfortunately our reputation has preceeded us. jwirr Sep 2014 #1

Wonder how come suspicions run deep? Was it the lying about WMDs and then invading? Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #24

Exactly Aerows Sep 2014 #45

I fail to see the problem. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #2

the problem would be that we are widely distrusted throughout Iraq cali Sep 2014 #3

Killing a bunch of "CIA agents" won't make that worse. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #5

And the decade's baggage CIA got previously.... mylye2222 Sep 2014 #9

We've all seen this movie before Aerows Sep 2014 #44

Who *hasn't* had this thought cross their mind? Aerows Sep 2014 #4

Me. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #6

I wish I still had that kind of optimism. Aerows Sep 2014 #7

It's not optimism. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #8

Well, there are a few choices Aerows Sep 2014 #10

Or, ISIL rose above the background level cheapdate Sep 2014 #23

In other words Aerows Sep 2014 #36

No, in other words they're not omnipotent. cheapdate Sep 2014 #46

LOL Aerows Sep 2014 #48

At no point in this exchange cheapdate Sep 2014 #49

No one except anyone that has read the last 6 decades Aerows Sep 2014 #67

Bay of Pigs? cheapdate Sep 2014 #72

Chile Aerows Sep 2014 #73

Oh, and far as the Bay of Pigs Aerows Sep 2014 #74

Poppycock. cheapdate Sep 2014 #81

Oh my word. Aerows Sep 2014 #83

How could I possibly express this any clearer? cheapdate Sep 2014 #84

Are you okay with that objective? n/t Aerows Sep 2014 #86

Do you support Bashar al-Assad? cheapdate Sep 2014 #92

I've never given it much weight. pinto Sep 2014 #28

Like I said Aerows Sep 2014 #37

I'm at the point where I'm ready to believe Man from Pickens Sep 2014 #11

The CIAs origins are very suspicious to begin with. Initech Sep 2014 #13

bingo grasswire Sep 2014 #31

Only an absolute idiot Aerows Sep 2014 #38

This is not a "theory" or a secret. ISIS is funded, trained and supplied weapons by our government 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #12

This crap has been debunked many times oberliner Sep 2014 #15

Just folding your arms and saying that its been debunked doesnt work... 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #16

I can tell you what hasn't been debunked Aerows Sep 2014 #19

Who is it the sitting US president has pledged to fund and arm in Syria, again? Scootaloo Sep 2014 #51

Everyone else in Syria that Aerows Sep 2014 #66

If one assumes the goal is to fix, rather than cause problems, at least Scootaloo Sep 2014 #70

The goal is to topple Assad Aerows Sep 2014 #71

Except that's not beneficial Scootaloo Sep 2014 #79

Actually Aerows Sep 2014 #80

I'm sorry, I was using the general "you" Scootaloo Sep 2014 #82

Gotcha Aerows Sep 2014 #85

Have already presented links last time you posted this same junk oberliner Sep 2014 #54

An NYT article that regurgitates a statement from McCain's spokesperson? ...That's it? 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #57

Recommend read....n/t KoKo Sep 2014 #69

It hasn't been debunked Aerows Sep 2014 #18

The McCain photo has oberliner Sep 2014 #53

No, the McCain photo is very real even he doesnt deny that (Nice try though). 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #62

McCain didn't meet with Islamic State kwassa Sep 2014 #75

You got it. Another Helgian Dialectic, but this ballyhoo Sep 2014 #21

Ah geeze. Along that same line of speculation I tag big pharma as the instigators. pinto Sep 2014 #29

Its not "speculation". It was reported by PBS Frontline and other reputable news sources 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #50

actually, that was debunked. elehha did an op about cali Sep 2014 #52

Can you point out where I said McCain met with "Mr. Baghdadi"? 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #59

McCain never met with ISIS. kwassa Sep 2014 #78

Re "There is no connection between ISIS and the US government." 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #87

Your entire post has zero facts to support it. kwassa Sep 2014 #89

Re: "However, we did not give them the weapons." ...Well not directly ;) 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #90

and your entire quote from the Frontline documentary has nothing to do with ISIS. kwassa Sep 2014 #91

I'm tired of playing word games. The "rebels" and ISIS are one in the same. 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #93

You are absolutely wrong. ISIS is one rebel group among many, and not a moderate one. kwassa Sep 2014 #94

How To Make People Think You're Hep and World Savvy, by Dreamer Tatum Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #14

Or you could read a few things and see why people think that. Aerows Sep 2014 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author Rex Sep 2014 #25

It may not always be about cred. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #22

Anyone that wants to believe in this fairy tale Aerows Sep 2014 #39

Yep. All of that. cheapdate Sep 2014 #35

Who knows, maybe Iraq is right newfie11 Sep 2014 #20

The same suspicions run deep in Wisconsin too. Scuba Sep 2014 #26

Hanlon's Razor yet again. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #27

I used to think.. sendero Sep 2014 #30

Where would they get that crazy idea? Octafish Sep 2014 #32

I miss ol Swampy! Rex Sep 2014 #41

This is going to be a hard bit of snake oil Aerows Sep 2014 #43

Yeah was going to just keep my mouth shut on this one. But what the hey. Rex Sep 2014 #47

I'm not going to apologize Aerows Sep 2014 #42

Work of art! flamingdem Sep 2014 #76

The cartoonish evil might be a clue. GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #33

Exactly. Aerows Sep 2014 #40

Opportunity created by 1 percenters? Keep the Lint Head Sep 2014 #34

People steeped in religion and superstition tend to sufrommich Sep 2014 #55

This is much deeper and broader than that as the article makes clear cali Sep 2014 #60

"We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality." bemildred Sep 2014 #56

The thought had crossed my mind... kentuck Sep 2014 #58

ISIS are rank amateurs at terrorism compared to the CIA. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #61

And if you don't believe that Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #64

Or, history. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #65

You could listen to Ambassador Samantha Power Aerows Sep 2014 #68

McCain fed this idea directly when he blurted out that "everyone in the National Security Team KurtNYC Sep 2014 #63

It is in the interest of some very wealthy parties for the US to be continuously at war. RedCappedBandit Sep 2014 #77

If the NYT is pushing a CT, you can bet they've got it twisted around. ucrdem Sep 2014 #88