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Duckhunter935

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80. seems like they are asking us back

Sun Sep 21, 2014, 12:26 PM

Sep 2014

Now, the Philippines is engaged in territorial wrangles with China and is asking the Americans it booted out to come back.

http://blogs.wsj.com/searealtime/2014/04/28/5-philippine-bases-where-the-u-s-military-will-look-to-gain-a-footing/

Closing of bases in Mannheim ends special relationship between Germans, U.S. troops
http://www.stripes.com/news/europe/germany/closing-of-bases-in-mannheim-ends-special-relationship-between-germans-u-s-troops-1.144258
US Army says farewell to Schweinfurt

The simple ceremony was conducted at the Schweinfurt Army garrison for the final time on Friday, as what remained of the base’s facilities and grounds were officially turned over to the German government.

http://www.stripes.com/news/us-army-says-farewell-to-schweinfurt-1.304017

Fond memories and some tears as US Army leaves Bamberg

But soldiers who were in Bamberg Friday to watch as the Army closed a door on a piece of its history said the reason they love the place is because of the people.

http://www.stripes.com/news/fond-memories-and-some-tears-as-us-army-leaves-bamberg-1.302834

Americans leave their hearts in Heidelberg

Heidelberg is seeing the Americans off in style, bringing to an end a relationship which began in 1945 when US troops entered the city and occupied a Wehrmacht base, today known as Campbell Barracks, on its southern outskirts.

http://www.thelocal.de/20130604/50091

Darmstadt garrison bids Germany farewell

With a lump in the throat and the gift of an American flag to this city's lord mayor, U.S. Army Garrison Darmstadt officials ended six decades of service for the installation at its inactivation ceremony Aug. 5.

A strong turnout of former employees and retirees - some of whom had traveled considerable distances to attend - joined the garrison's Soldiers and civilians at Cambrai-Fritsch Kaserne to pay their respects.

The crowd dwarfed two small troop details - one American and one German - of Soldiers from the garrison's Headquarters and Headquarters Detachment and the Bundeswehr's Versorgungs-und Instandsetzungszentrum (Supply and Maintenance Center).

Under a gorgeous blue sky, and to the accompaniment of music by the U.S. Army Europe Band, members of USAF Darmstadt cased the organization's colors for the last time.

http://www.army.mil/article/11482/darmstadt-garrison-bids-germany-farewell/

Old but a very good read, start of the drawdown
http://www.bicc.de/fileadmin/Dateien/Publications/reports/report4/report4.pdf

Germany base closure dates
Base closings

Department of Defense officials on Wednesday announced a timeline for the closure of several bases and facilities at communities in Germany:

Fiscal 2007

Mannheim
Turley Barracks

Fiscal 2008

Büdingen
Armstrong Barracks
Armstrong Village Family Housing
Büdingen Ammunition Area
Büdingen Army Heliport
Tiergarten Training Area

Gelnhausen
Coleman Village Family Housing

Fiscal 2009

Darmstadt **
AG Publishing and Training Aids Center
Bensheim Maintenance & Supply Facility
Cambrai Fritsch Kaserne
Ernst Ludwig Kaserne
Griesheim Airfield
Jefferson Village Family Housing
Kelley Barracks
Langen Terrace Family Housing Area
Lincoln Village Family Housing
Messel Small Arms Range
Santa Barbara Village Family Housing

Hanau
Argonner Kaserne
Cardwell Village Family Housing
Campo Pond Training Area
Fliegerhorst Airfield Kaserne
Grossauheim Kaserne
Hutier Kaserne
New Argonner Family Housing
Pioneer Kaserne
Pioneer Village Family Housing
Wolfgang Kaserne
Yorkhof Kaserne

http://www.stripes.com/news/dod-lists-closing-dates-for-31-germany-bases-1.66382

Yes the USA was quite a threat to Russia as it been closing bases in Germany and Europe for the last 25 years.

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A List of Russian Provocations Against Its Neighbors [View all] Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2014 OP

All Russia wants is peace--a piece of Ukraine, a piece of Estonia, a piece of Lithuania...... Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #1

piece by piece Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #2

Thank you, Benton.. we need the facts here. Not what Putin says brought to us by RTers Cha Sep 2014 #3

Thanks. Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2014 #4

Sorry, I posted the vid twice.. Cha Sep 2014 #8

and the attacks on Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #7

Exactly.. those poor people under fire.. but, "noooo, it's not really happening". :( Cha Sep 2014 #9

Can I steal this? LOL, if not, PM me with your name and I will give you credit. nt stevenleser Sep 2014 #5

Check your mail. Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2014 #6

lol Cha Sep 2014 #10

Did the West break its promise to Moscow? reorg Sep 2014 #11

Finland and Sweden aren't members of NATO. Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2014 #12

thank you Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #13

Oh,yes, the West are such angels... ballyhoo Sep 2014 #28

and how many have we annexed Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #33

We didn't want to annex them. Just appropriate ballyhoo Sep 2014 #34

The Crimean Tartar population is sure jumping for joy I am sure Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #36

All 12.1 per cent of them? The major let them ALL vote. ballyhoo Sep 2014 #40

and now they are being slowly deported again Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #42

Okay, Duck, valid point. But in a Democracy ballyhoo Sep 2014 #44

Alright, you don't get to call it a democracy NuclearDem Sep 2014 #46

That is kind of funny Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #48

The major is the head of their democracy. He did not exclude ballyhoo Sep 2014 #49

I am also sure the Ukrainian minority Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #47

You must be better qualified than Genscher, obviously - reorg Sep 2014 #14

"cooperating with fascist" no they aren't cooperating with the only real fascists geek tragedy Sep 2014 #18

You could try dealing with the facts I posted above. Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2014 #29

You could try to deal with the question of security in Europe reorg Sep 2014 #31

Really? Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2014 #37

Sometimes I just have to hit my head Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #45

Does Russia encircle the US with military bases? reorg Sep 2014 #69

Stopped reading after the first paragraph. Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2014 #73

It makes me sad reorg Sep 2014 #76

what a croc Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #84

BS meMeMEEEE Sep 2014 #90

Why are you posting a fake picture to support your point? meMeMEEEE Sep 2014 #86

I did? reorg Sep 2014 #92

Nice attempt to deflect meMeMEEEE Sep 2014 #93

From the cooperation with fascists in Ukraine? reorg Sep 2014 #94

sorry, your credibility's gone, no more pics please meMeMEEEE Sep 2014 #95

Look far right and look right again reorg Sep 2014 #98

so you have to resort to posting fake pictures? Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #101

What do you mean? How is this picture "fake"? reorg Sep 2014 #103

"It's a nice illustration of the point I was making:" Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #105

fake as in 'not representative of the actual situation on the ground' meMeMEEEE Sep 2014 #107

More yellowcake: the pic you posted is from a 2011 movie set. Iterate Sep 2014 #91

a reference to Ukrainian cooperation with fascism reorg Sep 2014 #97

nope meMeMEEEE Sep 2014 #100

Time for you to give credit to the source and apologize Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #102

Please, stop deflecting from the discussion reorg Sep 2014 #104

well since you used a fake Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #106

unlike the Ukrainian intelligence service reorg Sep 2014 #108

And they have had democratic elections Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #109

It's called reconnaissance. Have to lay the vectors. ballyhoo Sep 2014 #26

There is no treaty promising Russia dominion over Poland and the Baltics. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #16

Current US policy is to bring instability to Europe reorg Sep 2014 #21

That nonsense may play in Moscow and amongst those who long for Erich Honecker's tenure geek tragedy Sep 2014 #22

Senior German politicians of all stripes reorg Sep 2014 #27

Funny that most Germans have a negative view of Russia geek tragedy Sep 2014 #38

That's not the case reorg Sep 2014 #43

Should I believe Putin's apologists or data? geek tragedy Sep 2014 #58

Genscher (see above) is far from being a "Putin apologist" reorg Sep 2014 #63

Yes, you are correct, it is not possible to geek tragedy Sep 2014 #77

I think reorg works for Moscow! LOL! SkyDaddy7 Sep 2014 #35

Seriously, WTF? SkyDaddy7 Sep 2014 #25

A List of US Foreign Regime Change Actions nationalize the fed Sep 2014 #15

red herring. Russia is not above criticism. thanks for the logical fallacy though nt geek tragedy Sep 2014 #17

Well, you know the Russians only annexed all those countries for their own good, LOL. freshwest Sep 2014 #20

Soviet propaganda was always fond of the tu quoque fallacy. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #19

If I made a list dating back as far as you did abour Russia/USSR it would also be quite rpannier Sep 2014 #23

Post it then...not just "If I made a list". eom Purveyor Sep 2014 #52

Easy. joshcryer Sep 2014 #54

Oh 'tut-tut', why must you muddle the meme of the day? Thank you for posting, indeed. Purveyor Sep 2014 #51

There are so many of them it makes me question treestar Sep 2014 #82

Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Yemen. FlatStanley Sep 2014 #24

why? kardonb Sep 2014 #30

As far as I can see it is none of my business, and the US should definitely stay out of it. Exultant Democracy Sep 2014 #32

Things you won't read at RT...nt SidDithers Sep 2014 #39

Russia considers herself entirely justified AngryAmish Sep 2014 #41

This happens all the time... MattSh Sep 2014 #50

so where did we invade and occupy Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #56

texas california new mexico Warren Stupidity Sep 2014 #64

so you have to go back over 100 years Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #66

We currently have nearly 1000 military bases outside of our territory. Warren Stupidity Sep 2014 #68

can you list those bases Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #71

Nice find! EX500rider Sep 2014 #79

Thanks Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #81

Those sources are golden compare to the Vineyard saker geek tragedy Sep 2014 #59

So let's blow all their shit to fuck n/t Scootaloo Sep 2014 #53

Please point to where I said that. Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2014 #88

First off, it's not ad hominem Scootaloo Sep 2014 #96

i see the usual suspects.. "But, But, But, the USA-Leave Russia Alone!!!111" Like two wrongs make Cha Sep 2014 #55

In 1989 they did something that the US has yet to do eridani Sep 2014 #57

None of which are there against the will geek tragedy Sep 2014 #60

LOL! reorg Sep 2014 #70

wow what a snappy comeback Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #72

They are leaving! They are leaving! reorg Sep 2014 #75

Has Germany ever asked the US to abandon geek tragedy Sep 2014 #78

seems like they are asking us back Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #80

I grew up between some of those bases mentioned reorg Sep 2014 #89

and how many contries do we take by force and run? Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #61

a little dated but here are the actual numbers Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #62

That was not due to being nice treestar Sep 2014 #83

source please? Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #85

You're right. Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2014 #87

Because most of those countries had been under illegal occupation for half a century. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #110

Must. Have. More. War. Warren Stupidity Sep 2014 #65

If Russia had not invaded Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #67

Kick & recommended. William769 Sep 2014 #74

... 99Forever Sep 2014 #99