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KurtNYC

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63. McCain fed this idea directly when he blurted out that "everyone in the National Security Team

Sun Sep 21, 2014, 11:50 AM

Sep 2014

recommended arming ISIS"

He did not stop, did not correct himself just went right on with the story.

(at 1:31 in video) McCain: "Hillary Clinton has described already the meeting at the Whitehouse over two years ago, everyone in the National Security Team recommended arming ISIS and the President, by himself, turned it down. Just like, by himself, he decided not to strike Syria after he said that they'd crossed a red line."

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Suspicions Run Deep in Iraq That C.I.A. and the Islamic State Are United [View all] cali Sep 2014 OP

Unfortunately our reputation has preceeded us. jwirr Sep 2014 #1

Wonder how come suspicions run deep? Was it the lying about WMDs and then invading? Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #24

Exactly Aerows Sep 2014 #45

I fail to see the problem. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #2

the problem would be that we are widely distrusted throughout Iraq cali Sep 2014 #3

Killing a bunch of "CIA agents" won't make that worse. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #5

And the decade's baggage CIA got previously.... mylye2222 Sep 2014 #9

We've all seen this movie before Aerows Sep 2014 #44

Who *hasn't* had this thought cross their mind? Aerows Sep 2014 #4

Me. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #6

I wish I still had that kind of optimism. Aerows Sep 2014 #7

It's not optimism. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #8

Well, there are a few choices Aerows Sep 2014 #10

Or, ISIL rose above the background level cheapdate Sep 2014 #23

In other words Aerows Sep 2014 #36

No, in other words they're not omnipotent. cheapdate Sep 2014 #46

LOL Aerows Sep 2014 #48

At no point in this exchange cheapdate Sep 2014 #49

No one except anyone that has read the last 6 decades Aerows Sep 2014 #67

Bay of Pigs? cheapdate Sep 2014 #72

Chile Aerows Sep 2014 #73

Oh, and far as the Bay of Pigs Aerows Sep 2014 #74

Poppycock. cheapdate Sep 2014 #81

Oh my word. Aerows Sep 2014 #83

How could I possibly express this any clearer? cheapdate Sep 2014 #84

Are you okay with that objective? n/t Aerows Sep 2014 #86

Do you support Bashar al-Assad? cheapdate Sep 2014 #92

I've never given it much weight. pinto Sep 2014 #28

Like I said Aerows Sep 2014 #37

I'm at the point where I'm ready to believe Man from Pickens Sep 2014 #11

The CIAs origins are very suspicious to begin with. Initech Sep 2014 #13

bingo grasswire Sep 2014 #31

Only an absolute idiot Aerows Sep 2014 #38

This is not a "theory" or a secret. ISIS is funded, trained and supplied weapons by our government 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #12

This crap has been debunked many times oberliner Sep 2014 #15

Just folding your arms and saying that its been debunked doesnt work... 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #16

I can tell you what hasn't been debunked Aerows Sep 2014 #19

Who is it the sitting US president has pledged to fund and arm in Syria, again? Scootaloo Sep 2014 #51

Everyone else in Syria that Aerows Sep 2014 #66

If one assumes the goal is to fix, rather than cause problems, at least Scootaloo Sep 2014 #70

The goal is to topple Assad Aerows Sep 2014 #71

Except that's not beneficial Scootaloo Sep 2014 #79

Actually Aerows Sep 2014 #80

I'm sorry, I was using the general "you" Scootaloo Sep 2014 #82

Gotcha Aerows Sep 2014 #85

Have already presented links last time you posted this same junk oberliner Sep 2014 #54

An NYT article that regurgitates a statement from McCain's spokesperson? ...That's it? 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #57

Recommend read....n/t KoKo Sep 2014 #69

It hasn't been debunked Aerows Sep 2014 #18

The McCain photo has oberliner Sep 2014 #53

No, the McCain photo is very real even he doesnt deny that (Nice try though). 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #62

McCain didn't meet with Islamic State kwassa Sep 2014 #75

You got it. Another Helgian Dialectic, but this ballyhoo Sep 2014 #21

Ah geeze. Along that same line of speculation I tag big pharma as the instigators. pinto Sep 2014 #29

Its not "speculation". It was reported by PBS Frontline and other reputable news sources 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #50

actually, that was debunked. elehha did an op about cali Sep 2014 #52

Can you point out where I said McCain met with "Mr. Baghdadi"? 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #59

McCain never met with ISIS. kwassa Sep 2014 #78

Re "There is no connection between ISIS and the US government." 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #87

Your entire post has zero facts to support it. kwassa Sep 2014 #89

Re: "However, we did not give them the weapons." ...Well not directly ;) 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #90

and your entire quote from the Frontline documentary has nothing to do with ISIS. kwassa Sep 2014 #91

I'm tired of playing word games. The "rebels" and ISIS are one in the same. 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #93

You are absolutely wrong. ISIS is one rebel group among many, and not a moderate one. kwassa Sep 2014 #94

How To Make People Think You're Hep and World Savvy, by Dreamer Tatum Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #14

Or you could read a few things and see why people think that. Aerows Sep 2014 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author Rex Sep 2014 #25

It may not always be about cred. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #22

Anyone that wants to believe in this fairy tale Aerows Sep 2014 #39

Yep. All of that. cheapdate Sep 2014 #35

Who knows, maybe Iraq is right newfie11 Sep 2014 #20

The same suspicions run deep in Wisconsin too. Scuba Sep 2014 #26

Hanlon's Razor yet again. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #27

I used to think.. sendero Sep 2014 #30

Where would they get that crazy idea? Octafish Sep 2014 #32

I miss ol Swampy! Rex Sep 2014 #41

This is going to be a hard bit of snake oil Aerows Sep 2014 #43

Yeah was going to just keep my mouth shut on this one. But what the hey. Rex Sep 2014 #47

I'm not going to apologize Aerows Sep 2014 #42

Work of art! flamingdem Sep 2014 #76

The cartoonish evil might be a clue. GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #33

Exactly. Aerows Sep 2014 #40

Opportunity created by 1 percenters? Keep the Lint Head Sep 2014 #34

People steeped in religion and superstition tend to sufrommich Sep 2014 #55

This is much deeper and broader than that as the article makes clear cali Sep 2014 #60

"We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality." bemildred Sep 2014 #56

The thought had crossed my mind... kentuck Sep 2014 #58

ISIS are rank amateurs at terrorism compared to the CIA. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #61

And if you don't believe that Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #64

Or, history. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #65

You could listen to Ambassador Samantha Power Aerows Sep 2014 #68

McCain fed this idea directly when he blurted out that "everyone in the National Security Team KurtNYC Sep 2014 #63

It is in the interest of some very wealthy parties for the US to be continuously at war. RedCappedBandit Sep 2014 #77

If the NYT is pushing a CT, you can bet they've got it twisted around. ucrdem Sep 2014 #88