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In reply to the discussion: Suspicions Run Deep in Iraq That C.I.A. and the Islamic State Are United [View all]cheapdate
(3,811 posts)There's nothing in dispute. The United States government, through the CIA, recruited, trained, funded, provisioned, planned, and participated in the failed invasion and overthrow of Castro in the Bay of Pigs.
In Chile, the CIA, through a variety of secret and illegal means, including murder and kidnapping, succeeded in overthrowing the popular and democratically elected leader of Chile and replacing him with the despotic, right-wing Pinochet, ushering in a decade of murder, torture, and oppression.
There's no reason to go from Chile and Cuba to the conclusion that the United States government intentionally planned, established, funded and trained ISIL for the purpose of...(fill in the blank).
Syria is complicated as hell. Nationwide demonstrations against the 30 year autocratic rule of the Assad family turned ugly when Assad turned his guns on the demonstrators. It soon became an all-out civil war with as many different sides as there are different affiliations in Syria. Foreign fighters from all over have joined the fray. The U.S., for it's own stupid reasons, has an interest in the outcome. Iraq, Iran, Jordan, Lebanon, Russia, Israel, Saudi Arabia, all have different interests. The CIA is everywhere in the region. In Pakistan, Libya, Jordan, Iraq, etc.
Out of all of this mess, it's a no-risk proposition to claim that the CIA planned or orchestrated this or that. It's fairly common knowledge that the CIA has been supplying arms and training clandestinely. The CIA has helped set up training facilities in Jordan.
The CIA created ISIL? No one can prove they didn't. That's not possible. I haven't seen any "proof" that they did. Just vague speculation about possibilities. Such is the stuff of conspiracy theory.