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TygrBright

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12. Actually, I haven't seen that many posts on the topic here at DU.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 12:25 PM
Sep 2014

The topic is on my radar, naturally, and I do follow threads on WHM (I love David Futrelle!) and subscribe to FemFreq and various other blogs. But I haven't really seen that much discussion of it here.

I wouldn't expect to, though. This is a political forum, and while the topics here do range widely, misogyny in the gaming community isn't really on a mainstream radar yet. But it's getting there as people realize the size of the whole gaming community-- that is, all of us who regularly play and appreciate, not just the gamerbros who are whimpering about "losing THEIR" treehouse.

For the neo-Libertarians and borderline Libertarians, the issue of "free speech" has always been a stalking horse for that famous Bill of Rights amendment: "The Right To Be An Asshole."

What they don't get is that while yes, we as a community want to protect and encourage freedom of speech, we as a community also have to create and enforce cultural norms that allow the fullest possible participation of everyone in the economic, social, and political life of the nation.

What is more restrictive, diligently sanctioning (OUTSIDE the legal system) speech that degrades the community environment? Or, ultimately, having to implement ever-more-draconian legal restrictions of many types to deal with the environment of hate, privilege, bullying, exclusion, and othering that finally results from suppressing that sanctioning?

I know which one I'd pick.

firmly,
Bright

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Thank you for this. TygrBright Sep 2014 #1
More power to you daredtowork Sep 2014 #7
Actually, I haven't seen that many posts on the topic here at DU. TygrBright Sep 2014 #12
I remember a few posts daredtowork Sep 2014 #21
While I empathize what you say Separation Sep 2014 #33
Causes I believe in have already been labeled "hate speech." TygrBright Sep 2014 #35
Yeah, between some of the gaming forums and online co-op (which more & more games are pushing) justiceischeap Sep 2014 #9
This is a good point daredtowork Sep 2014 #11
I've actually made a few friends among the young guys, but... TygrBright Sep 2014 #17
Older people are usually regarded as potential patrons daredtowork Sep 2014 #22
Sadly, I think you're right about that with young women. TygrBright Sep 2014 #23
I think it's mainly free to play games daredtowork Sep 2014 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author TygrBright Sep 2014 #2
Um, I'm not always active in the DU, but why are you juried out for an opinion? ConservativeDemocrat Sep 2014 #3
It wasn't for my opinion daredtowork Sep 2014 #5
Some people don't actually read much of the OP. Rex Sep 2014 #15
Sure you are champ. Rex Sep 2014 #14
I've seen "social justice warrior" used a few times here, sadly Recursion Sep 2014 #4
Yes the talking points have been coming together daredtowork Sep 2014 #6
I've been following this on David Futrelle's site "we hunted the mammoth" intaglio Sep 2014 #8
They also hunt in packs daredtowork Sep 2014 #10
You were juried out because you said another DUer was going to threaten you with rape ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2014 #13
Go back and review the comments daredtowork Sep 2014 #24
So you made a negative comment towards gaming.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2014 #27
The action of those boys raises a question daredtowork Sep 2014 #30
The corrupt journalist issue is a lot bigger then Zoe Quinn Chisox08 Sep 2014 #41
They're trying to make the term "social justice warrior" derogatory? OneGrassRoot Sep 2014 #16
It was from the get go, read the urban dictionary snooper2 Sep 2014 #19
Never heard that before. But I'm not into gaming or tumblr... OneGrassRoot Sep 2014 #20
I have a feeling that's intentional daredtowork Sep 2014 #26
Oh, absolutely. No doubt about that. OneGrassRoot Sep 2014 #36
Yes, it's a derogatory term daredtowork Sep 2014 #25
bad form to get kicked out of a thread with a hide and then start a new OP snooper2 Sep 2014 #18
I hope you are not referring to me Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #29
Not at all daredtowork Sep 2014 #31
Good, and for the record even if it may have seemed I was siding with the others Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #32
The big irony is daredtowork Sep 2014 #34
If you want to know why gamers jamzrockz Sep 2014 #37
We just want to play our games and Chisox08 Sep 2014 #38
So you are saying Sarkisian merited the treatment she received? el_bryanto Sep 2014 #39
There are trolls in every community Chisox08 Sep 2014 #43
I didn't find it so - I thought she made some good arguments el_bryanto Sep 2014 #44
Some people are just trolls and you can't explain their behavior Chisox08 Sep 2014 #46
Wow the lady in your first video nails it for me starting at like the 10 min mark Egnever Sep 2014 #47
Odd that you dont link to the thread or the post you had locked Egnever Sep 2014 #40
as I said last time nthis reared it's head DonCoquixote Sep 2014 #42
You're trying to justify your hijack of a thread by saying "anyone who objected is misogynist" muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #45
Locking. Sissyk Sep 2014 #48
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