I grant Ms. Watson's point. Still.

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13. men, that really have no interest in changing status quo, telling feminists they need to

reflect and change message so they can be heard by the very men that have no desire whatsoever to give up privilege? it is all in the women's tone, right?

the last couple years there has been a huge resurgence of feminism, across the globe actually. the young women, and many young men educated and speaking out. it is getting scary for those groups you mention. they reject? sure. and why would we expect anything less. and i am seeing a huge effort to suggest feminism is on its last dying leg, though that is far from the truth. our young women are vocal, clear, articulate and educated. and they have a platform to speak from. they are, loudly.

that would be the point, i guess, about the extreme desire to shut it down, saying it is dead.

just like du and crazy uncle sight stating it is just a very few hof women. it has never been the few. but there is a strong effort to make it so. any one of these threads have lots of both women and men that have nothing to do with hof speaking out. but al of a sudden they are crammed into the small group of a few, to be able to ignore their voice.

your post suggesting that the outcry around the world, of our young voice be dismissed for the purpose of shutting down forward movement is absurd, and factually incorrect.