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YoungDemCA

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18. One problem with your thesis: Most terrorists do not come from poor families
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 12:10 PM
Sep 2014

Mohammed Atta (one of the 9/11 hijacker-pilots) was the son of a lawyer, and a university graduate. Ziad Jarrah (another of the hijacker-pilots) actually came from a wealthy family that was secular in practice. Ayman al-Zawahiri comes from a family of surgeons, and is a surgeon himself. And I don't think I need to mention Osama bin Laden's wealthy and privileged family background.

These are not the poor, downtrodden masses of the Middle East. These are more often than not, the "best and the brightest"-from educated, solidly middle-class (and some from very wealthy) families.


One piece of the Krueger-Maleckova evidence involves 129 members of Hezbollah who died in action, mostly against Israel, from 1982 to 1994. Hezbollah is now designated by the U.S. as a terrorist organization. Biographical information from the Hezbollah newspaper al-Ahd indicates that the fighters who died were, on average, more educated and less impoverished than the Lebanese population of comparable age and regional origin.

A similar finding applies on the other side of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to Israeli Jewish extremists who attacked Palestinians in the West Bank in the late '70s and early '80s. Many of the extremists were Gush Emunim members. A list of 27 of the Israeli terrorists reveals a pattern of high education and high-paying occupations.

Krueger and Maleckova also examine surveys conducted last December with Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza. These polls tell us about who supports terrorism, as opposed to who are the terrorists. One set of answers reveals a high level of support for the general policy of attacking Israeli targets. This support is stronger among the literate than the illiterate. In another question, a remarkable 80% of respondents thought that the suicide bombing last June that killed 21 youths in a Tel Aviv nightclub was not terrorism. (The respondents recognized overwhelmingly that this act was regarded as terrorism by international opinion.) Moreover, the Palestinians' adherence to the view that the mass murder of civilians was not terrorism was independent of education and higher among those working than unemployed. Hence, support for terrorism was not reduced by increases in education and income.

The same patterns apply outside of the Middle East. For example, a study by Charles Russell and Bowman Miller (reprinted in the 1983 book Perspectives on Terrorism) considered 18 revolutionary groups, including the Japanese Red Army, Germany's Baader-Meinhof Gang, and Italy's Red Brigades. The authors found that "the vast majority of those individuals involved in terrorist activities as cadres or leaders is quite well-educated. In fact, approximately two-thirds of those identified terrorists are persons with some university training, [and] well over two-thirds of these individuals came from the middle or upper classes in their respective nations or areas."


http://www.businessweek.com/stories/2002-06-09/the-myth-that-poverty-breeds-terrorism
Stop being so sensible, the MIC needs the dough. Scuba Sep 2014 #1
Of what economic class were the 9/11 hijackers? JoePhilly Sep 2014 #2
osama bin laden wasn't a 9/11 hijacker, he was their financier. unblock Sep 2014 #4
Religion is also a tool Tansy_Gold Sep 2014 #8
I did not say economcs plays no part. JoePhilly Sep 2014 #21
the end is economic -- the power and control of resources. unblock Sep 2014 #24
So when will the oppressed women in the region ... JoePhilly Sep 2014 #27
power and economics. unblock Sep 2014 #28
The hijackers are one small sample set Yavin4 Sep 2014 #12
That's what progressive social scientists would say Tansy_Gold Sep 2014 #3
exactly. no, we must do exactly what the terrorist recruiters want us to do. unblock Sep 2014 #5
At what point? I don't know. Maybe 40 years ago? 100? 1,000? Tansy_Gold Sep 2014 #7
Problem: For a middle-class you need education. DetlefK Sep 2014 #6
You don't necessarily need education Yavin4 Sep 2014 #14
And where do these jobs come from? DetlefK Sep 2014 #20
Who's going to fight that fight? The2ndWheel Sep 2014 #9
If only Osama bin Laden had grown up in a wealthy family, perhaps he would not have turned to terror Freddie Stubbs Sep 2014 #10
OBL is not representative for all terrorist groups Yavin4 Sep 2014 #13
We can't even fight poverty in the USA Johonny Sep 2014 #11
How do we explain terrorists going there from western Europe? mainer Sep 2014 #15
That and they really need to put religion in private and not public so much. logosoco Sep 2014 #16
Europe was once filled with religious, sexist nut jobs, and after a few huge wars... Yavin4 Sep 2014 #17
One problem with your thesis: Most terrorists do not come from poor families YoungDemCA Sep 2014 #18
They all make scads of money on war. Stopping jihadists would kill their cash cow. nt Zorra Sep 2014 #19
Poverty causes terrorism? Mr. Blue Sky Sep 2014 #22
poverty doesn't cause terrorism. Look at the Bundy/McVeigh crowd as well as the geek tragedy Sep 2014 #23
I don't think Bundy is very educated. leftyladyfrommo Sep 2014 #30
The Western Imperial nations will never, has NEVER allowed the people of the ME sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #25
ISIS pays middle class wages. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #26
ISIS isn't made of poor, ignorant folks. leftyladyfrommo Sep 2014 #29
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