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24. the end is economic -- the power and control of resources.

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:10 AM

Sep 2014

religion is just a tool. if a different religion resonated with the people there, or a different form of propaganda or crowd control, then they would go with that instead. if they had the exact same religion as us, or the regimes they're fighting, they would find some other way to differentiate themselves.

religion is intertwined with it, but attributing it to religion sheds little light on what's going on. economics is a much better way of understanding what's going on. these are cultures with vast income disparities, high concentrations of wealth and power in the hands of a few oil-rich families and rotten regimes often supported by the richest country on the planet at their expense. this breeds discontent and resentment and people fighting to get what they see as their fair share. this is unsustainable in the long term, sociologically speaking; eventually this leads to violence and revolution.

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The only effective way to stop people from committing acts of terror is to fight poverty in the... [View all] Yavin4 Sep 2014 OP

Stop being so sensible, the MIC needs the dough. Scuba Sep 2014 #1

Of what economic class were the 9/11 hijackers? JoePhilly Sep 2014 #2

osama bin laden wasn't a 9/11 hijacker, he was their financier. unblock Sep 2014 #4

Religion is also a tool Tansy_Gold Sep 2014 #8

I did not say economcs plays no part. JoePhilly Sep 2014 #21

the end is economic -- the power and control of resources. unblock Sep 2014 #24

So when will the oppressed women in the region ... JoePhilly Sep 2014 #27

power and economics. unblock Sep 2014 #28

The hijackers are one small sample set Yavin4 Sep 2014 #12

That's what progressive social scientists would say Tansy_Gold Sep 2014 #3

exactly. no, we must do exactly what the terrorist recruiters want us to do. unblock Sep 2014 #5

At what point? I don't know. Maybe 40 years ago? 100? 1,000? Tansy_Gold Sep 2014 #7

Problem: For a middle-class you need education. DetlefK Sep 2014 #6

You don't necessarily need education Yavin4 Sep 2014 #14

And where do these jobs come from? DetlefK Sep 2014 #20

Who's going to fight that fight? The2ndWheel Sep 2014 #9

If only Osama bin Laden had grown up in a wealthy family, perhaps he would not have turned to terror Freddie Stubbs Sep 2014 #10

OBL is not representative for all terrorist groups Yavin4 Sep 2014 #13

We can't even fight poverty in the USA Johonny Sep 2014 #11

How do we explain terrorists going there from western Europe? mainer Sep 2014 #15

That and they really need to put religion in private and not public so much. logosoco Sep 2014 #16

Europe was once filled with religious, sexist nut jobs, and after a few huge wars... Yavin4 Sep 2014 #17

One problem with your thesis: Most terrorists do not come from poor families YoungDemCA Sep 2014 #18

They all make scads of money on war. Stopping jihadists would kill their cash cow. nt Zorra Sep 2014 #19

Poverty causes terrorism? Mr. Blue Sky Sep 2014 #22

poverty doesn't cause terrorism. Look at the Bundy/McVeigh crowd as well as the geek tragedy Sep 2014 #23

I don't think Bundy is very educated. leftyladyfrommo Sep 2014 #30

The Western Imperial nations will never, has NEVER allowed the people of the ME sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #25

ISIS pays middle class wages. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #26

ISIS isn't made of poor, ignorant folks. leftyladyfrommo Sep 2014 #29