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lark

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Fri Sep 26, 2014, 12:00 PM

Sep 2014

The war machine is what rules America. Presidents that don't go along (Carter) also don't last long. Actually, I dont know that anyone totally and truly anti-war would ever win the nomination in these Citizen United times. Seems to me they let Obama win because they knew that his anti-war rhetoric would not be matched by equally fervent anti-war actions.

What's going on now, though, is totally stupid. We created ISIS by funding anti-Assad fighters, now we are funding more anti-Assad fighters to fight the first group. Will they just join ISIS or create yet another hate group that we have to fight with boots on the ground? STUPID CRAZY! What makes us think we can get this one right when we constantly get it so wrong? I think the whole goal is
1 - create more need for weapons/planes/ammo
2 - raise the price of oil
3 - cut funding for anything helping the working class

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"No Boots on the Ground," my ass. [View all] WilliamPitt Sep 2014 OP

They're being sent there to erect warehouses for the expected flowers flung by the grateful Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #1

+1 whereisjustice Sep 2014 #110

"After nearly nine years, America's war in Iraq will be over” leftstreet Sep 2014 #2

Iraq War Reboot. CJCRANE Sep 2014 #3

recommended phantom power Sep 2014 #4

C'MON we'll get it right this time, because...obama! KG Sep 2014 #5

Some of us fucking knew there would be boots on the ground. Autumn Sep 2014 #6

There was no doubt there would be boots on the ground. Over ballyhoo Sep 2014 #8

American leadership in the world. SammyWinstonJack Sep 2014 #99

For 10-20 years. Terms of decades. morningfog Sep 2014 #7

Yes, it will, but, frankly, with the fascists firmly in control ballyhoo Sep 2014 #10

hopefully they are just there to return the nobel peace prize. Travis_0004 Sep 2014 #9

my ass too strawberries Sep 2014 #11

What's even worse, they will come home and get little to no care BuelahWitch Sep 2014 #22

+1,000,000 lark Sep 2014 #12

Military recruitment has been ramped up. louis-t Sep 2014 #13

and here I thought strawberries Sep 2014 #27

Actually that AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #47

Thanks for that info. louis-t Sep 2014 #55

Who could have possibly known????????????????? BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #14

Gosh. Who knew, huh? Zorra Sep 2014 #15

One of my favorites. F4lconF16 Sep 2014 #46

Bush broke it, we bought it................ wandy Sep 2014 #16

Comparing ISIL to the Kardashians? mimi85 Sep 2014 #49

Not comparing. What did they call themselves before they became....... wandy Sep 2014 #54

Yup, but you know, we've always been at war with Eurasia tavalon Sep 2014 #93

Kardashians !!! Autumn Sep 2014 #59

You are correct. Old and In the Way Sep 2014 #88

The last administration broke it, so we have to fix it? tavalon Sep 2014 #95

It's the oil, silly... freebrew Sep 2014 #105

Alas, you hit that nail on the head tavalon Sep 2014 #116

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The next domino... n/t whatchamacallit Sep 2014 #18

Thou shalt not question the sacred holder of... 99Forever Sep 2014 #19

Good way to put it. n/t Paper Roses Sep 2014 #35

Huge K & R !!! WillyT Sep 2014 #20

I was repeatedly told the war in Iraq was over. NCTraveler Sep 2014 #21

I've come to the conclusion CJCRANE Sep 2014 #29

Having both parties at the executive level take part in these.... NCTraveler Sep 2014 #31

Who would have known that sending military advisors would escalate? EEO Sep 2014 #23

There's no doubt that our military advisors take orders from DU. mimi85 Sep 2014 #50

You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity. EEO Sep 2014 #53

Manufactured consent. woo me with science Sep 2014 #24

this was predicted, and the usual suspects assured us it wouldn't happen frylock Sep 2014 #25

It's Haldeman's The Forever War minus the time travel. Aristus Sep 2014 #26

Soldier, ask Not... malthaussen Sep 2014 #109

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I'M SHOCKED! Maven Sep 2014 #30

Why are pro-war folks opposed to boots on the ground? Chathamization Sep 2014 #32

Good question n/t leftstreet Sep 2014 #43

Because the cliche means men with guns and tanks and other toys, not clip pads. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #71

Other than weapons makers AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #83

They aren't, they just haven't been told to think otherwise. morningfog Sep 2014 #117

The 1% profit JEB Sep 2014 #33

as the reasons for the carnage cut their meat and lick the gravy frylock Sep 2014 #37

The decision to escalate the Great Middle East War transcends the mere President. rhett o rick Sep 2014 #34

+1,000,000,000,000 Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #65

Is that the higher pay scale? n/t xocet Sep 2014 #76

Yes, it's the race to be the worlds first trillionaire. Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #118

You are correct. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #101

Might as weel send 100,000 troops because INdemo Sep 2014 #36

IMO this is bigger than parties and personalities. CJCRANE Sep 2014 #40

They are not combat troops, cliche comparisons to reality is unproductive. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #38

oh please. they are being sent to a war zone. cali Sep 2014 #42

Exactly! Good post Fred. mimi85 Sep 2014 #51

Yeah, let's call them advisers. That's the ticket. Is your point that it really isn't as bad as rhett o rick Sep 2014 #68

You think that matters to the ones who like a good "my ass" whine? "unproductive"? rofl.. as if. Cha Sep 2014 #69

I am sorry AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #84

Gotta agree with you. I disagree with the President I voted for (and would vote again for).... marble falls Sep 2014 #114

A trillion here and a trillion there nationalize the fed Sep 2014 #39

Unfortunately many don't understand the meaning of "boots on the ground" George II Sep 2014 #41

same shit, different day Marrah_G Sep 2014 #44

I commend you for leaving out "used car salesman" this time nt Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #45

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'I don’t know, Butchie,' instead RandiFan1290 Sep 2014 #60

What are you ctsnowman Sep 2014 #48

These are not combat troops, Will. Your OP seems to suffer from a lack of msanthrope Sep 2014 #56

Oh Please... humbled_opinion Sep 2014 #74

Obama is a fool? nt msanthrope Sep 2014 #75

According to DU... sheshe2 Sep 2014 #89

A correct turn. tavalon Sep 2014 #96

lookin' like tavalon Sep 2014 #97

Facts stopped working with OP & his crowd a long time ago. They love their rhetorical outrage stevenleser Sep 2014 #78

Indeed...that is an apt comparison. We have 3k troops fighting Ebola.... msanthrope Sep 2014 #81

How dare you question the OP. Maybe the OP can start calling Obama still_one Sep 2014 #80

Too bad AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #85

Gotta feed the MIC, Dustlawyer Sep 2014 #57

"The "MY TEAM FIRST!!!" ethos in American politics is going to be the death of us all." sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #58

If you count SOF, boots have been on the ground for weeks... Blue_Tires Sep 2014 #61

It's ok... We're going to be treated as liberators. SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #62

I gave up on Obama long ago. cwydro Sep 2014 #63

"Tell me sweet little lies." blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #64

It is the same thing... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2014 #66

Your "MY TEAM FIRST!!!" comment A Simple Game Sep 2014 #67

stop being such a hater n/t 1dogleft Sep 2014 #70

there is nothing wrong with hating senseless war Skittles Sep 2014 #103

An Army Division HQ usually commands between 10,000-18,000 soldiers neverforget Sep 2014 #72

Boots on the ground, Boots on the ground... humbled_opinion Sep 2014 #73

Only unlike Bush's war, ISIL isn't imaginary. cheapdate Sep 2014 #77

So when is the last time you supported occupy WS? Cleita Sep 2014 #79

Then let defense contracting firms work at cost, without profit IronLionZion Sep 2014 #82

Yes. Take the profit out of it. Cleita Sep 2014 #87

exactly what is needed in the USA right now. whereisjustice Sep 2014 #111

Hey, hey LBJ, how many boys did you kill today? obxhead Sep 2014 #86

Learn your history. It was Kennedy who started it. n/t Cleita Sep 2014 #90

And LBJ who tripled down. tavalon Sep 2014 #98

"The "MY TEAM FIRST!!!" ethos in American politics is going to be the death of us all." pablo_marmol Sep 2014 #91

I was on vacation when we went "to war" tavalon Sep 2014 #92

The Memo is being changed from "search and destroy" the Vietcong to "degrade and destroy" ISIS Baclava Sep 2014 #100

k&r for principal before party Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #94

Yes! Bobbie Jo Sep 2014 #113

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #102

kick. woo me with science Sep 2014 #104

Why do you talk about your ass so much? randome Sep 2014 #106

It's my best feature. WilliamPitt Sep 2014 #107

Your brain is the better ass-et emulatorloo Sep 2014 #112

Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #108

kick woo me with science Sep 2014 #115