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4. The Kurdish military is another couple hundred thousand as well. The media narrative is missing a

Reply to KG (Original post)

Fri Sep 26, 2014, 01:52 PM

Sep 2014

number of facts. Much of the current violence in Iraq is part of a widespread revolt in Sunni Arab regions against the sectarian government in Baghdad. ISIS is one militant group amongst many involved (and I imagine a number of people calling themselves ISIS now are semi-independent militant groups that have been in the area for sometime and join up with various factions when it suits them). The violence has been most located in Sunni Arab regions where at least some of the public would be sympathetic to fighters representing "their side" in the sectarian struggle. They haven't overrun large Shiite or Kurdish cities (though a few small border towns were taken over). The idea that either Baghdad or Irbil was about to fall doesn't seem based in much reality.

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ISIS -approx 10-20k barely trained lightly armed. Iraqi Army approx 250k [View all] KG Sep 2014 OP

Motivation. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #1

perhaps the corporate media that has been lying about everything J_J_ Sep 2014 #2

oh, we're being sold a war. damn straight. KG Sep 2014 #3

The Kurdish military is another couple hundred thousand as well. The media narrative is missing a Chathamization Sep 2014 #4

Supposedly America already spent $20 billion training and equipping these Iraqi security forces think Sep 2014 #5

Think we can get a refund? Autumn Sep 2014 #6

I wish! Unfortunately it appears we plan to double down... /nt think Sep 2014 #8

Well there's plenty of programs we can cut to piss away another 20 billion. Autumn Sep 2014 #10

This whole 'Medicare' thing makes seniors lazy leftstreet Sep 2014 #18

Hell better yet why not just ask us the enlist. We would have a premanent job. jwirr Sep 2014 #26

Well... linuxman Sep 2014 #7

Ummmm.... I know. I know. 99Forever Sep 2014 #9

If they're that easy to corral, then one U.S. jet should be enough, right? randome Sep 2014 #11

Then you haven't been paying attention. Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #12

Yep. The army we already paid $20 billion to arm and train dropped their weapons and ran think Sep 2014 #13

I didn't claim it was a good investment. Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #14

Sorry. Was venting and was more of a general statement rather than a direct response. think Sep 2014 #19

Iraq also has 500k+ reserves leftstreet Sep 2014 #15

They're trying to figure out Twitter. randome Sep 2014 #20

85% Shia AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #28

An army on its own, no matter how devastating, will not win battles. It stands or falls with its com LanternWaste Sep 2014 #16

"In war, numbers alone confer no advantage. Do not advance relying on sheer military power." LittleBlue Sep 2014 #17

Actually ISIS has 30,000 fighters AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #21

You make some good points CJCRANE Sep 2014 #24

Sounds like a weapons embargo might have been in order leftstreet Sep 2014 #25

Interesting but comes from from CIA to CNN....(a reliable mouthpiece for MIC) KoKo Sep 2014 #27

"I was only there for the paycheck," moondust Sep 2014 #22

You have just about everything wrong. cali Sep 2014 #23

Want to buy some Iraqi rifles...? Bigmack Sep 2014 #29