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Tierra_y_Libertad

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17. IMO. It's to make us into "Crusaders" that are at war with Islam.

Sun Sep 28, 2014, 10:16 AM

Sep 2014

Crusaders who will do anything to destroy Islam as a whole everywhere and make a sort of United Islam the only thing that can stop us.

It boils down to "If you aren't with us, You're against us" policy with everyone not joining in enemies of Islam.

They are counting on us in the West to act as brutally and psychotically as they do out of the fear the generate.

Right now, they have very little popular support but if we retaliate in our usual way, and the way that the public will demand that we do, their support will grow.

It's, at best, a faulty strategy with little hope of success. The West is stepping into the trap and throwing kerosene on the fire which will alienate many Muslims around the world, but ISIS will do the same by their brutal acts. They wish to reestablish the Caliphate of the Golden Age while ignoring the fact that the "Golden Age" was a thousand years ago and times have changed. It would be like the West trying to reestablish The Holy Roman Empire. And, it will fail.

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Why did ISIS want to draw us into war? [View all] cali Sep 2014 OP

I have no idea. But, if the answer were to be revealed, it might contain some very ladjf Sep 2014 #1

So we would attack them and raise their profile thus allowing them to garner more recruits./NT DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #2

Agreed. tecelote Sep 2014 #52

Because President Obama is their true leader & giftedgirl77 Sep 2014 #3

Not sure that they did..... Sherman A1 Sep 2014 #4

This is empirical observation and not a normative one DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #10

Perhaps Sherman A1 Sep 2014 #27

"Just do something" is deeply ingrained in the American personality. /NT DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #32

Your point? Igel Sep 2014 #39

A lot of words. That's why I said it was an empirical observation and not a normative one. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #49

You have to remember that ISIS did not drop in the ME from outer space. These are the same people kelliekat44 Sep 2014 #40

I like this.. sendero Sep 2014 #48

You believe anything a band of murderous thugs says? Okay, then. randome Sep 2014 #5

they haven't said it as far as I know, so no that 's not the reason I believe it. cali Sep 2014 #8

Which is more cooperation than they've given themselves in a while. randome Sep 2014 #12

Good point! "The world changes slowly and it's hard to see that, sometimes. RKP5637 Sep 2014 #29

No you don't Scootaloo Sep 2014 #53

So they can kill Americans? Rex Sep 2014 #6

Draw us into the quagmire. JEB Sep 2014 #7

I think that's a lot of it. cali Sep 2014 #9

It's worked before in that part of the world. JEB Sep 2014 #11

This is exactly what they are doing AgingAmerican Sep 2014 #25

Exactly! That was Osama bin Laden's modus operandi and RKP5637 Sep 2014 #30

and at the same time.... smiley Sep 2014 #33

Becoming Jihadists, fighting the Great Satan, and beheading people, Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #13

Well, was it THEM or was it THEIR SPONSOR(s)?? HereSince1628 Sep 2014 #14

Because they believe in a strange afterlife? Boy, are they going to be disappointed! randome Sep 2014 #15

+1000 !!!! orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #51

Ask George W. Bush... Wounded Bear Sep 2014 #16

He has been gone 6 years yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #55

Not sure what your point is... Wounded Bear Sep 2014 #56

IMO. It's to make us into "Crusaders" that are at war with Islam. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #17

Also their support grows with every bomb we drop and every missile we fire. Autumn Sep 2014 #18

And the "us" includes the British and French suffragette Sep 2014 #41

.... Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #42

... suffragette Sep 2014 #43

so the MIC can continue to profit from Eternal War librechik Sep 2014 #19

I believe they want something like a Crusade. Cleita Sep 2014 #20

I don't think they wanted to, actually. They just made too big of a land grab, in a TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #21

They watched Ric Flair in the 80s? FrodosPet Sep 2014 #22

Wish I knew fadedrose Sep 2014 #23

Theirs is a cosmic war AgingAmerican Sep 2014 #24

Really? Without using Google, tell me who is the mastermind behind ISIS. randome Sep 2014 #26

First I don't know if that's what they want, why aren't the Saudis on their own ? orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #28

Because they believe that it would unite Muslims against the U.S. However, they have created a still_one Sep 2014 #31

They really don't care about the other Muslims customerserviceguy Sep 2014 #35

Regardless of the reason the fact that they don't care about other Muslims is the reason they won't still_one Sep 2014 #38

Because they really want us to get sick of war there customerserviceguy Sep 2014 #34

To bankrupt the empire. H2O Man Sep 2014 #36

Like Soviet Union in Afghanistan.... KoKo Sep 2014 #44

Actually, they didn't want to draw us into war. kwassa Sep 2014 #37

Amen MFrohike Sep 2014 #58

These are the guys who think they'll get 75 virgins, and you're asking for a logical reason? n/t pnwmom Sep 2014 #45

We make for good PR. jwirr Sep 2014 #46

why did Saddam Hussein in 1990-1991 do everything possible that would draw the great powers into war Douglas Carpenter Sep 2014 #47

He was an idiot but he wasn't nuts. He thought GHWB had given him the nod CJCRANE Sep 2014 #54

Because they want to establish a caliphate that will rule the world. slinkerwink Sep 2014 #50

Their thinking must be that we can't resist war..... RagAss Sep 2014 #57

They didn't want to draw us into war Shankapotomus Sep 2014 #59