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LisaL

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13. It is very easily transmitted.

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 06:25 PM

Sep 2014

Patrick Sawyer flew to Nigeria and managed to infect a whole bunch of people there.
So if this guy was symptomatic on the 24th, he could have infected a lot of people during the four day period before being admitted.

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How much exposure to the Ebola virus [View all] YarnAddict Sep 2014 OP

a lot hollysmom Sep 2014 #1

That's reassuring. In_The_Wind Sep 2014 #4

That claim is bogus. LisaL Sep 2014 #11

And you are an expert in communicable diseases, I assume? DeadLetterOffice Oct 2014 #151

It's not very easy to transmit unless you have really close contact with bodily fluids. Marrah_G Sep 2014 #2

Thanks for the info! YarnAddict Sep 2014 #5

It is very easily transmitted. LisaL Sep 2014 #13

Ebola Facts: Texasgal Sep 2014 #3

Thanks! n/t YarnAddict Sep 2014 #7

+1. nt seabeyond Sep 2014 #8

Is that way it's biosafety level 4 virus? LisaL Sep 2014 #15

Yes. I agree. They haven't studied Ebola long enough to know that for certain. misterhighwasted Sep 2014 #22

The reason it is in bio safety level 4 is because it is very deadly. longship Sep 2014 #23

Then explain mersa B2G Sep 2014 #42

I was under the impression Texasgal Sep 2014 #46

I'm referring to virus control in a hospital B2G Sep 2014 #49

Well, MRSA is not as easy to diganose Texasgal Sep 2014 #52

You mean MRSA? Laffy Kat Sep 2014 #50

The point was about hospital procedures. nt valerief Oct 2014 #128

The bacteria msra and the virus ebola are 2 entirely different things. uppityperson Oct 2014 #133

We all know they're two different things. Glad you know it, too! nt valerief Oct 2014 #136

You seemed to be confused as to proper care for them, and where they are found, etc. uppityperson Oct 2014 #138

Bringing up MRSA is a total non sequitur. longship Sep 2014 #54

The problem is that unless scrupulous infection control is maintained, it is very easy for someone hedgehog Oct 2014 #165

Because it has a high mortality rate and no vaccination. jeff47 Sep 2014 #81

Yes. I think you're right. 840high Sep 2014 #101

It is a level 4 because there is no cure or vaccine Marrah_G Oct 2014 #130

So on a scale of GummyBearz Sep 2014 #20

Zero! longship Sep 2014 #24

I agree... but Agschmid Sep 2014 #64

Well, I am sure that the CDC has plans intact. longship Sep 2014 #71

Yup. Agschmid Sep 2014 #72

We should fear the chances of Willard Romney winning the whitehouse in 2016 rustydog Sep 2014 #44

I'm gonna say Zero. Texasgal Sep 2014 #47

I think you spelled bears wrong snooper2 Oct 2014 #120

the answer to that, as I understand it, is it's possible cali Sep 2014 #6

There's a little conflicting info here . . . YarnAddict Sep 2014 #9

I wish that more people had that Texasgal Sep 2014 #10

True that! YarnAddict Sep 2014 #12

Flu doesn't have 70 % death rate. LisaL Sep 2014 #14

never said it did. Texasgal Sep 2014 #16

Well, a few die. Still a bad deal. nt Logical Sep 2014 #17

The other thing is-- YarnAddict Sep 2014 #18

That's the problem. Texasgal Sep 2014 #19

I am so pissed about this. WTF..Patient is not a US Citizen. Came here to visit family. WHY?? misterhighwasted Sep 2014 #21

The CDC dude YarnAddict Sep 2014 #27

Yes, and it's flat-out idiotic that we're still allowing travelers in from those countries at all. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #149

I agree. boston bean Oct 2014 #153

Since he arrived here on Sept 20 and showed no symptoms until Sept 24 Warpy Sep 2014 #28

Yup. Agschmid Sep 2014 #67

Hmm this seems like a response which lacks any empathy... Agschmid Sep 2014 #66

i have little empathy for the person who failed to inform the 1st ER misterhighwasted Oct 2014 #126

So... He did tell them though. Agschmid Oct 2014 #144

I would bet serious money he knew he was exposed and withheld that info kestrel91316 Sep 2014 #92

Yes. And some people who were exposed to him will lie to avoid isolation apples and oranges Sep 2014 #96

Be careful not to spread misinformation. Contacts are not put into isolation. kestrel91316 Sep 2014 #104

True. Perhaps he also was in denial. misterhighwasted Oct 2014 #131

Turns out HE did the right thing and said he was from Liberia. The screening ER nurse totally kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #147

He did know he was exposed. He carried his landlords daughter misterhighwasted Oct 2014 #146

I thought I read he transferred in Atlanta. valerief Oct 2014 #129

Oh yes. Not much happening at the Busiest Airport in the Country! misterhighwasted Oct 2014 #132

Atlanta can relax. Apparently it was Dulles in Washington DC misterhighwasted Oct 2014 #162

Apparently, it doesn't transmit in sneezes or coughs Warpy Sep 2014 #25

Didn't CDC dude YarnAddict Sep 2014 #29

Yes, he was let go. LisaL Sep 2014 #32

On the bright side-- YarnAddict Sep 2014 #34

Sick with ebola for 4 days means critical care level sick. Warpy Sep 2014 #33

But what about his first visit? YarnAddict Sep 2014 #35

Then he wasn't sick enough to be contagious either. morningfog Sep 2014 #94

What in the world are you talking about? LisaL Sep 2014 #99

They are contagious when they are speading their bodily fluids. morningfog Sep 2014 #105

Do you understand what body fluids are? LisaL Sep 2014 #111

How often do you ingest random people's sweat? morningfog Sep 2014 #113

You don't have to "ingest" it YarnAddict Oct 2014 #118

Play a game with yourself BlindTiresias Oct 2014 #122

You mean my mouth and you mean after I have stuck my finger in an infected person's anus? morningfog Oct 2014 #123

Any mucous membrane BlindTiresias Oct 2014 #125

That is simply not true. morningfog Oct 2014 #127

Yes, it is BlindTiresias Oct 2014 #139

Worry yourself all you want. morningfog Oct 2014 #140

What? BlindTiresias Oct 2014 #142

You are mistaken. morningfog Oct 2014 #143

Just going by the CDC and WHO documents. BlindTiresias Oct 2014 #145

They don't say what you claim. Let's do it this way: morningfog Oct 2014 #150

Uh, kind of a tall order there considering the situation BlindTiresias Oct 2014 #154

Unmitigated bullshit! morningfog Oct 2014 #155

If they have sweat on their hand yes it will! BlindTiresias Oct 2014 #156

Good lord. Lost cause. You are hyping ignorant fear. morningfog Oct 2014 #157

Sorry you have a hard time parsing language. BlindTiresias Oct 2014 #159

Oh btw BlindTiresias Oct 2014 #160

Thanks for the information n/t deutsey Oct 2014 #164

That is not what that says. BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #112

I didn't see CDC dude. Warpy Sep 2014 #57

Not quite. BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #48

Touching only with broken skin Warpy Sep 2014 #55

Yeah? BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #77

No, wrong. BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #78

It is spread through SWEAT, for god's sake. How people kestrel91316 Sep 2014 #93

Right, like blood soaked bedding. Warpy Oct 2014 #115

A fevered body in distress can release puddles Lars39 Oct 2014 #119

This paper is more informative Warpy Oct 2014 #116

The paper says that the virus is detected in all tissues BlindTiresias Oct 2014 #121

Detected in doesn't mean transmitted by Warpy Oct 2014 #134

Detected in BlindTiresias Oct 2014 #137

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That's-- YarnAddict Sep 2014 #30

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2014 #37

Yup. YarnAddict Sep 2014 #39

got a link for that info? dixiegrrrrl Sep 2014 #31

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Caring for a sick family member, cleaning up their blood and vomit would do it Hekate Sep 2014 #38

Makes me wonder YarnAddict Sep 2014 #40

Our military is actually very good at humanitarian missions, when called on to undertake them. nt Hekate Sep 2014 #51

Setting up isolation areas, properly disposing of contaminated materials and bodies (nt) jeff47 Sep 2014 #79

Before people panic here, read what the CDC has on ebola, it takes a bit to transmit it rustydog Sep 2014 #41

But panic is apparently much more fun... DeadLetterOffice Oct 2014 #152

So long as there is not some unknown mutation, it takes a lot to catch Ebola. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #43

It doesn't take a lot even without mutation. LisaL Sep 2014 #45

You're kind of all over this thread. WillowTree Sep 2014 #58

Don't Panic: The Virus Doesn't Spread Very Efficiently... rustydog Sep 2014 #53

Good link. Texasgal Sep 2014 #56

He wasn't put in isolation for days after developing symptoms. LisaL Sep 2014 #59

Okay, so we should just put the flu Texasgal Sep 2014 #61

Me and my family are less than 50 miles from the hospital MrTriumph Sep 2014 #60

I don't think there is any plane-related danger YarnAddict Sep 2014 #62

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How about safety of all other people? LisaL Sep 2014 #65

I'd imagine they are working on it... Agschmid Sep 2014 #68

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They would not be contagious until they are symptomatic. jeff47 Sep 2014 #83

This guy was symptomatic for at least four days before finally being put in isolation. LisaL Sep 2014 #88

Because when a stranger vomits in front of me jeff47 Sep 2014 #89

It's not unlikely at all. LisaL Sep 2014 #98

How symptomatic was he? If is has just a fever, he wasn't contagious. morningfog Sep 2014 #95

Where exactly did you get this idea? LisaL Sep 2014 #97

It is widely undrestood and reported: morningfog Sep 2014 #102

Being most infectious and infectious are two completely different things. LisaL Sep 2014 #103

And until they are spewing their bodily fluids, there is nothing being transmitted to be infected by morningfog Sep 2014 #107

No BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #109

Oh for crying out loud. LisaL Sep 2014 #110

Let's pretend they released that. Now what? jeff47 Sep 2014 #80

I agree. There may be people with Ebola staggering their way around you RIGHT NOW! hedgehog Oct 2014 #166

k&r for the replies with facts vs fear mongering uppityperson Sep 2014 #73

Indeed. n/t Adsos Letter Sep 2014 #74

All this blather assuming we know every detail.. sendero Sep 2014 #75

I have a feeling YarnAddict Sep 2014 #76

To answer your question seriously BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #82

Probably not. jeff47 Sep 2014 #84

Viruses have different levels of infectivity BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #85

Point is, a realistic floor is way above one. jeff47 Sep 2014 #86

No, incorrect BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #87

Pssst.....read the last two words. They're kinda important. (nt) jeff47 Sep 2014 #90

Uh BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #100

Any contact whatsoever with bodily fluids of a person kestrel91316 Sep 2014 #91

More info 840high Sep 2014 #108

I can't find any information on ebola virus survival time outside the body. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #114

it depends in part on the state of your immune system magical thyme Sep 2014 #106

Unfortunately, it's got a lot of medicalese in it Warpy Oct 2014 #117

Thank you for posting. Great information there. morningfog Oct 2014 #124

Some people would rather terrify themselves over nothing Warpy Oct 2014 #135

as well as the anti vaxxers who are causing those once eradicated misterhighwasted Oct 2014 #148

Transmission WovenGems Oct 2014 #141

Very close contact Warpy Oct 2014 #158

This guy hopscotched through BRUSSELS and DULLES (DC) before landing in TX. MADem Oct 2014 #161

Don't know how thorough the screening would have been YarnAddict Oct 2014 #163

Four million people live in Liberia. According to the CDC, there have been hedgehog Oct 2014 #167