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riqster

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Thu Oct 2, 2014, 05:04 PM

Oct 2014

"You run with the electorate you have, not the electorate you want. Obama is extremely unpopular in Kentucky, and Grimes isn't in a position to change that."

True. Sad, but true.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 OP

The same reason Clinton made the keynote sddress Gman Oct 2014 #1

Because Obama is a gracious man he would say that LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #12

good characterization of both men. nt AtomicKitten Oct 2014 #15

Would you rather Grimes lose with Obama stumping for her Gman Oct 2014 #23

No, let them/her do what they think to win. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #24

Both Obama and Bill could explain the same thing Gman Oct 2014 #26

So what has Bill said about Obamacare in Kentucky? Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #29

Dunno Gman Oct 2014 #49

He's the great communicator like you mentioned Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #50

Good point, IMO. nt AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #69

There are several reasons Clinton is visually supporting her... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #39

Whatever way to get rid of the Turtle, is fine with me. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #47

And if it does.... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #51

Thanks. Good explanation. elleng Oct 2014 #53

So Obama should have given the keynote address AND his acceptance address at the same convention? Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #20

Huh??? So he could campaign for Grimes I guess???? Gman Oct 2014 #22

Nah. That's not it. PragmaticLiberal Oct 2014 #28

Bingo! I guarantee you Gman Oct 2014 #48

Exactly. PragmaticLiberal Oct 2014 #59

Because Kentucky does not associate Obama with Kynect. MohRokTah Oct 2014 #2

show how inept her campaign is for not connecting kynect with Obamacare - msongs Oct 2014 #9

Connecting KYnect with Obamacare is not going to get Grimes elected. Staph Oct 2014 #65

Because Kentucky? Iggo Oct 2014 #3

that's easy. The President is unpopular in KY. cali Oct 2014 #4

Exactly. Iggo Oct 2014 #5

Shoudn't Obamacare help her win? Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #14

How? Iggo Oct 2014 #37

Kynect will help her win jmowreader Oct 2014 #54

one doesn't need to explain it, they already support it , one of the early states to get behind it JI7 Oct 2014 #8

Obama helped loads of Kentuckians get coverage they otherwise would not have had Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #17

Does it matter? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #56

I know that, but Obamacare is still unpopular in KY and so is Obama cali Oct 2014 #57

Kynect is Obamacare Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #58

obviously it's hard. You really don't think dems have tried to explain it? cali Oct 2014 #62

No I don't think they have tried to explain it Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #64

bullshit. that we be why she loses if she loses. This isn't rocket science cali Oct 2014 #68

McConnell is weak Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #73

How do you reconcile 'McConnell is weak' and 'She loses'? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #75

black JI7 Oct 2014 #6

Because she wants to win the election, I imagine? Recursion Oct 2014 #7

Obama has helped thousands of Kentuckians Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #10

Because people tell reporters "it sure beats Obamacare" Recursion Oct 2014 #11

This: riqster Oct 2014 #40

She has ran a campaign distancing herself from Obama Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #13

Even with the success of Obamacare in Kentucky.... kentuck Oct 2014 #19

The same reason Al Gore didn't involve Bill Clinton in his campaign = Distance. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #16

There's 1 president, 100 senators. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #61

Agreed. I'd rather have a blue dog Dem, over a Republican anyday. If we keep the majority, we.... Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #63

Because Bill is popular in KY and Obama isn't. WI_DEM Oct 2014 #18

Why? What did Bill do so differently than Obama? Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #21

Bill decided to be white. Obama didn't. JoePhilly Oct 2014 #35

Because it's fucking Kentucky. LeftyMom Oct 2014 #25

Then Dems need to call out this racism. Ignoring this isn't fair to blacks in America Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #27

Call it out and lose? PragmaticLiberal Oct 2014 #30

So Dems running for higher office should just sit back and not call out racism for fear of losing? Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #32

What exactly do you want Grimes to say? PragmaticLiberal Oct 2014 #33

Fear of? You mean 'guarantee of' in this case. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #66

Whatever happened to doing the right thing and calling out bigotry against your fellow humans? Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #71

Winning the election gives you a hell of a lot better soapbox to Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #74

At least she's not using racist dogwhistles herself, which makes her better than a lot of Dems. LeftyMom Oct 2014 #31

Sometimes I really hate this country Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #36

This is terrible, I see there isn't any productive in asking the question of whether Bill Clinton Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #34

Rude Pundit made the point a week or two ago - ACA is fantastic concept, bullwinkle428 Oct 2014 #38

I thought a white guy, Mitt Romney, did come up with it. aikoaiko Oct 2014 #42

DiMaisi (then-head of the MA legislature) came up with it Recursion Oct 2014 #45

Yes, I was riffing off of the ACA debate prior to the vote. aikoaiko Oct 2014 #55

Its not her job to do PR for the president while she is being strategic. aikoaiko Oct 2014 #41

It's not plugging for Obama Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #43

Its been said by other, but at this point changing hearts and minds is difficult. aikoaiko Oct 2014 #44

My single biggest disappointment with Obama during the 2008 primary. ieoeja Oct 2014 #46

Spot on. theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #52

If you are working a Democratic campaign in a red state....... bigendian Oct 2014 #60

Let me ask this question theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #67

It's not rocket science tularetom Oct 2014 #70

Because he is HATED there. PeteSelman Oct 2014 #72

Deleting Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #76