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ieoeja

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46. My single biggest disappointment with Obama during the 2008 primary.

Thu Oct 2, 2014, 05:19 PM

Oct 2014

He pretty much stopped campaigning in rural regions and certain states after he secured the nomination.

He beat Clinton in rural Iowa. He beat Clinton in rural New Hampshire, but lost in the cities. He beat Clinton in every Nevada county except for Clark County where Las Vegas resides (where Clinton tried getting the rules changed so Las Vegas employees could not vote!).

Obama connects much better with the rural community than do the Clintons. In fact, it was Bill who switched the Democratic Party from a coalition of the poor and the working class in cities and the countryside to the urban/suburban coalition because that's where the money is.

Kentucky isn't that much different from Indiana, and Obama carried Indiana over McCain in 2008. I believe Kentucky, Tennessee and West Virginia could have been in play had he campaigned there.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 OP

The same reason Clinton made the keynote sddress Gman Oct 2014 #1

Because Obama is a gracious man he would say that LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #12

good characterization of both men. nt AtomicKitten Oct 2014 #15

Would you rather Grimes lose with Obama stumping for her Gman Oct 2014 #23

No, let them/her do what they think to win. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #24

Both Obama and Bill could explain the same thing Gman Oct 2014 #26

So what has Bill said about Obamacare in Kentucky? Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #29

Dunno Gman Oct 2014 #49

He's the great communicator like you mentioned Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #50

Good point, IMO. nt AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #69

There are several reasons Clinton is visually supporting her... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #39

Whatever way to get rid of the Turtle, is fine with me. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #47

And if it does.... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #51

Thanks. Good explanation. elleng Oct 2014 #53

So Obama should have given the keynote address AND his acceptance address at the same convention? Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #20

Huh??? So he could campaign for Grimes I guess???? Gman Oct 2014 #22

Nah. That's not it. PragmaticLiberal Oct 2014 #28

Bingo! I guarantee you Gman Oct 2014 #48

Exactly. PragmaticLiberal Oct 2014 #59

Because Kentucky does not associate Obama with Kynect. MohRokTah Oct 2014 #2

show how inept her campaign is for not connecting kynect with Obamacare - msongs Oct 2014 #9

Connecting KYnect with Obamacare is not going to get Grimes elected. Staph Oct 2014 #65

Because Kentucky? Iggo Oct 2014 #3

that's easy. The President is unpopular in KY. cali Oct 2014 #4

Exactly. Iggo Oct 2014 #5

Shoudn't Obamacare help her win? Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #14

How? Iggo Oct 2014 #37

Kynect will help her win jmowreader Oct 2014 #54

one doesn't need to explain it, they already support it , one of the early states to get behind it JI7 Oct 2014 #8

Obama helped loads of Kentuckians get coverage they otherwise would not have had Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #17

Does it matter? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #56

I know that, but Obamacare is still unpopular in KY and so is Obama cali Oct 2014 #57

Kynect is Obamacare Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #58

obviously it's hard. You really don't think dems have tried to explain it? cali Oct 2014 #62

No I don't think they have tried to explain it Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #64

bullshit. that we be why she loses if she loses. This isn't rocket science cali Oct 2014 #68

McConnell is weak Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #73

How do you reconcile 'McConnell is weak' and 'She loses'? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #75

black JI7 Oct 2014 #6

Because she wants to win the election, I imagine? Recursion Oct 2014 #7

Obama has helped thousands of Kentuckians Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #10

Because people tell reporters "it sure beats Obamacare" Recursion Oct 2014 #11

This: riqster Oct 2014 #40

She has ran a campaign distancing herself from Obama Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #13

Even with the success of Obamacare in Kentucky.... kentuck Oct 2014 #19

The same reason Al Gore didn't involve Bill Clinton in his campaign = Distance. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #16

There's 1 president, 100 senators. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #61

Agreed. I'd rather have a blue dog Dem, over a Republican anyday. If we keep the majority, we.... Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #63

Because Bill is popular in KY and Obama isn't. WI_DEM Oct 2014 #18

Why? What did Bill do so differently than Obama? Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #21

Bill decided to be white. Obama didn't. JoePhilly Oct 2014 #35

Because it's fucking Kentucky. LeftyMom Oct 2014 #25

Then Dems need to call out this racism. Ignoring this isn't fair to blacks in America Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #27

Call it out and lose? PragmaticLiberal Oct 2014 #30

So Dems running for higher office should just sit back and not call out racism for fear of losing? Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #32

What exactly do you want Grimes to say? PragmaticLiberal Oct 2014 #33

Fear of? You mean 'guarantee of' in this case. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #66

Whatever happened to doing the right thing and calling out bigotry against your fellow humans? Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #71

Winning the election gives you a hell of a lot better soapbox to Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #74

At least she's not using racist dogwhistles herself, which makes her better than a lot of Dems. LeftyMom Oct 2014 #31

Sometimes I really hate this country Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #36

This is terrible, I see there isn't any productive in asking the question of whether Bill Clinton Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #34

Rude Pundit made the point a week or two ago - ACA is fantastic concept, bullwinkle428 Oct 2014 #38

I thought a white guy, Mitt Romney, did come up with it. aikoaiko Oct 2014 #42

DiMaisi (then-head of the MA legislature) came up with it Recursion Oct 2014 #45

Yes, I was riffing off of the ACA debate prior to the vote. aikoaiko Oct 2014 #55

Its not her job to do PR for the president while she is being strategic. aikoaiko Oct 2014 #41

It's not plugging for Obama Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #43

Its been said by other, but at this point changing hearts and minds is difficult. aikoaiko Oct 2014 #44

My single biggest disappointment with Obama during the 2008 primary. ieoeja Oct 2014 #46

Spot on. theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #52

If you are working a Democratic campaign in a red state....... bigendian Oct 2014 #60

Let me ask this question theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #67

It's not rocket science tularetom Oct 2014 #70

Because he is HATED there. PeteSelman Oct 2014 #72

Deleting Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #76