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pnwmom

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53. They are being forced to remain in an apartment full of live Ebola virus.

Thu Oct 2, 2014, 06:16 PM

Oct 2014

The haz-mat team should have been called in the first day to clean up the environment. Instead, they didn't even clean the ambulance for two days.

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Days later, officials preparing to clean inside the apartment where Ebola relatives are confined. [View all] pnwmom Oct 2014 OP

I read an article that as of today or perhaps yesterday, the sheets on the bed were Duncan sweated morningfog Oct 2014 #1

Iwouldn't be surprised if any of them were infected. Louisiana1976 Oct 2014 #3

How long does that virus live outside the human body? FSogol Oct 2014 #5

I heard a dr on the radio today talk tammywammy Oct 2014 #10

I suspected that. Thanks. FSogol Oct 2014 #12

CDC says Ebola virus can survive up to 2-5 days in fluid or dried secretions. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #42

Maybe handling sheets with live virus is more dangerous... SidDithers Oct 2014 #11

Sure, but how does that further FUD? FSogol Oct 2014 #13

I think that is true. But leaving someone exposed morningfog Oct 2014 #21

Nobody is being forced to have contact with those sheets. If they lay on them, they are just stupid. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #43

you have shown such compassion during this event, it amazes me. eom uppityperson Oct 2014 #46

Zero compassion for people who act with criminal irresponsibility. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #56

You mean these victims, forced to stay there with their "filthy, virus-laden shoes"? Compassion for uppityperson Oct 2014 #58

They are being forced to remain in an apartment full of live Ebola virus. pnwmom Oct 2014 #53

They have already been exposed. As long as they dont lay on those dirty sheets or use those dirty kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #57

The degree of exposure matters, too. So continuing exposure increases the risk. pnwmom Oct 2014 #59

WTF? You're going off the deep end. morningfog Oct 2014 #60

I'm very angry. My own life was once endangered by people who failed to follow kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #62

No ones life was put in danger by them leaving morningfog Oct 2014 #75

They could at any time develop symptoms and become a danger to the kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #78

Agree Sparhawk60 Oct 2014 #91

They should have had a haz-mat team in there to remove the sheets and clean up the apartment. pnwmom Oct 2014 #52

Here you go: Avalux Oct 2014 #18

that sounds to me like, anything in the apartment, once dried, died. seabeyond Oct 2014 #24

The fridge keeps things at 4 degrees Duer 157099 Oct 2014 #71

Proteinaceous debris is very good at helping microbes to survive hostile environments when dry. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #44

So dirty dishes he ate out of Aerows Oct 2014 #61

I wouldn't touch them for a week other than to soak with bleach. Bleach will kill it PDQ. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #64

God help us I hope the family Aerows Oct 2014 #68

Yeah. I'm not sure they would have even had the sense to stay off that bed. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #69

Better a little late than never at all, I suppose. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #2

I see this is due to the orders of the Texas Health Officials. What's the matter with Texas anyway? shraby Oct 2014 #4

Some are trying to raise hell but they are given the standard.."Not to worry, its not airborn." misterhighwasted Oct 2014 #6

Same thing that's the matter with Kansas. Privatization of everything. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #29

Unbelievable. Cruel and unfair. And perhaps racist? ecstatic Oct 2014 #7

Why do you hate our greatness? Everyone knows the US is by far the greatest country in the world... xocet Oct 2014 #39

Anderson Cooper did an interview with Duncan's girlfriend. It airs tonight. misterhighwasted Oct 2014 #8

I saw that too. cwydro Oct 2014 #15

WTF? etherealtruth Oct 2014 #9

I didn't even have a "wtf". My mouth just dropped open. KittyWampus Oct 2014 #20

wondering if anyone has info RE surfaces/universal precautions? nashville_brook Oct 2014 #14

Here's some reallly good info. Avalux Oct 2014 #19

Hmmm? TheVisitor Oct 2014 #22

You are not reading it wrong. Avalux Oct 2014 #23

wow... TheVisitor Oct 2014 #25

They haven't done studies on vaginal fluid, but it would contain virus. Avalux Oct 2014 #28

the news covered this when brantley was released. elehhhhna Oct 2014 #35

Recovered victims of Ebola become sexual transmitters of it for up to 3 months. Yep. Fun, huh? kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #45

My fun meter Aerows Oct 2014 #63

Indeed. And the people saying it's not even as dangerous as the flu make me want to kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #66

yes -- very helpful, thank you! nashville_brook Oct 2014 #65

the public, us, are just learning. for ex: i read in this thread, once blood dries kills the ebola. seabeyond Oct 2014 #16

Pure unadulterated virus dried on glass dies almost immediately. Bodily fluids contaminated with kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #47

Good. Take every precaution possible. LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #17

One of "them" is 13 years old. Mariana Oct 2014 #70

Is the virus this kid many be infected with any less deadly... LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #72

Absolutely they should be quarantined. Mariana Oct 2014 #73

Right... because they'll catch double Ebola if they stay. LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #74

We're from the goverment and we are here to help...my ass! eom Purveyor Oct 2014 #26

Rather: We're here from the government of Texas and....Wait, why are we here again? n/t xocet Oct 2014 #41

My feelings exactly. 840high Oct 2014 #77

Bet it would be cleaned up if they lived in a wealthy neighborhood. misterhighwasted Oct 2014 #27

There are private companies who are well-trained in bio-hazard clean up, but the don't come cheaply. ColesCountyDem Oct 2014 #30

they also cut corners and haven't trained their people. elehhhhna Oct 2014 #36

This hospital is in a wealthy part of Dallas, very wealthy... FloriTexan Oct 2014 #33

sanje gupta (CNN) said there were no private companies willing to do.. grasswire Oct 2014 #37

unbelievable riverwalker Oct 2014 #31

The latest reporting from this afternoon... FloriTexan Oct 2014 #32

The relative only called the CDC after the hospital sent him home on the 25th. pnwmom Oct 2014 #34

That nephew, Josephus Weeks, is a HERO. He is the only one in this picture that knew WTF was going kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #49

The call to the CDC was made during the second request for JimDandy Oct 2014 #38

Federal guidelines call for immediate isolation of all with direct contact with the victim. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #48

It sounds more and more like he and his family... LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #51

"multiple violations of a request for them to stay inside." OK. And "sweaty"? Try also blood-/ WinkyDink Oct 2014 #40

I vote for deportation of those folks at the end of 21 days. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #50

It's not PC Aerows Oct 2014 #67

They should have been moved to a clean quarantine, not detained in a contaminated house. uppityperson Oct 2014 #81

I could be wrong, janlyn Oct 2014 #54

CDC needs their own clean up crews.....it should never be left up to the individual states. Lars39 Oct 2014 #55

I know why. Texas. nt valerief Oct 2014 #76

Sanitizing crew turned away at Ebola patient's residence in Dallas Bosonic Oct 2014 #79

It is good they will do it right, but, and a huge but, the rest pf the people quarantined there uppityperson Oct 2014 #80

I strongly agree. I can't believe the state has trapped them inside that contaminated apartment. pnwmom Oct 2014 #82

The best I hope for is they bagged up all the worst contaminated stuff, linens, etc uppityperson Oct 2014 #84

You know who did whatever bagging was done? pnwmom Oct 2014 #86

Or the young man who called the CDC. I am not assuming anything. nt uppityperson Oct 2014 #87

I'm not assuming this. The girlfriend said she was the one who bagged his things. pnwmom Oct 2014 #88

Ah, thank you. I hadn't read they bagged stuff, am glad to hear that. uppityperson Oct 2014 #89

But not his dirty sheets. They're still on the bed. Maybe she was afraid to handle them. pnwmom Oct 2014 #90

One more stupid snafu that shouldn't have happened. pnwmom Oct 2014 #83

I suspect this is a learning experience for many communities, hospitals, etc. uppityperson Oct 2014 #85