Ben Affleck Slams Bill Maher for "Racist," "Ugly" Views in Heated Islam Debate

[Humanist_Activist]

39. But no civilization exists in a vacuum, Turkey gave women the right to vote before the United...

States after all.

There isn't a "Muslim" civilization that is singular or monolithic, instead what we see is a great regression in many nations that happened because of failed decolonization policies of the 20th century. These policies gave no regard to ethnic, religious, or cultural differences in the nations created, is it any surprise that most of the nations that are so much in the grip of fundamentalist, militant Islam are also countries that were decolonized(particularly by Britain).

Combine this with continued meddling by western nations, propping up of secular dictators, who were, in many cases, the only way these new nations could be held together at all, and you see huge regressions in the advancements of human rights in many Muslim nations.

The issue isn't Islam, but the levels of religiosity that exist in nations. Uganda and other nations in Africa provide an example of failed decolonization policies and examples of western meddling and religious extremism, just not all of it is necessarily Muslim.

Secularism and liberal, enlightenment principles in human rights are a counter to this, and should be fostered in these countries internally, with external pressure being subtle and hopefully economically based, with military adventures being limited to defense and deterrence.

Oh, and I will, with no problem say that most "Western" values and cultural norms in relation to human, civil and political rights are superior and more civilized than those of many of these nations. If that's bigoted, I'm glad to be a bigot. I fucking hate culture relativists.