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politicat

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35. um... And that makes sense how?
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 02:35 PM
Oct 2014

So... yes, the carrying capacity is 1 billion is a valid environmental theory (I happen to think the theory is incorrect, but yeah, whatever, unless of course the Peter Cline 14 theory is correct, and once we reached 1 billion people, we were vulnerable to Cthulu type interstellar super-predators, but that one is so far fetched...) but the basis of that theory is that the 1 billion would be living at European/USian standards of living. The carrying capacity of the planet at lower standards of living is higher.

So why destroy part of the relatively minor 300 million people who are already comfortable with the technology and means of production of the higher standard of living? Europe and the US actually get things like low birth rates because we have a functional expectation of low infant mortality and a higher degree of a social safety net, so we don't look on reproduction as long-term security. (Not that USians have a great track record on low infant mortality, contraception and social safety nets, but we have the functional understanding of the concept.) It will take many years to properly indoctrinate a culture that believes a dozen children is a good start to maintain the low population. It will take no time at all to reinforce already present beliefs. (Though having the low population is ultimately stupid for the rich "they" if they want to remain rich. That's econ 101 -- if demand drops, the over supply becomes waste and the value ceases to exist. "They" need consumers for their Ponzi scheme to keep working.)

As awful as this is to think, and as much as I want to make clear that I have absolutely zero advocacy for this at all, if the point is to drop the planet's population to 1 billion very rapidly, the worst way to do so is to behead a bunch of USians. For one, it's slow, retail extermination, like squishing each ant marching into my kitchen individually with a chopstick. (Better to pull out the boric acid and get it over with.) Sadly, large bombs in densely crowded cities are more effective and faster. They don't even have to be nuclear bombs (since that would be bad for the 1 billion survivors). If it's come down to Lifeboat Planet Earth and "they" are in charge of picking who gets to stay dry and who has to play with the sharks, "they" are going to pick those they consider most productive -- the Midwestern farmer with 500 acres of corn is going to beat out the Indian farmer on 2 acres of okra, and the midtown Manhattan hedge fund manager. The former is subsistence and thus is low on the utilitarian greatest good scale; the latter is a parasite who contributes nothing to absolute survival.

Not to mention the absolute disposal problem. There is no way for 1 billion people to effectively bury, burn or otherwise dispose of 6 billion bodies. Even over a decade, the survivors would be so exhausted and traumatized that the plan would end in actual revolution against the "They" long before it hit even 1/10th of its goal.

Dammit, conspiracy theorists. Think it out. If they're creative enough to come up with this, they should at least have the sense to poke a few holes in their own dearly beloved intellectual atrocities. It's all fear and no thinking. It makes me wonder if there is not actually a virus that punches the amygdala into anxiety reactions on no stimulus (rather like toxoplasmosis does with other brain structures) that has somehow gone endemic.

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Guillotines? I suppose I could donate some lumber. Who do I contact? n/t brewens Oct 2014 #1
Yea. Where did that come from? leftyladyfrommo Oct 2014 #2
see, executions, which are blessed of God, have been going bad librechik Oct 2014 #4
That works for me. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2014 #6
But nobody Obama selects to get the job done fadedrose Oct 2014 #9
They can't let the Antichrist ever be right. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2014 #12
When I catch a bit of "these people" on tv fadedrose Oct 2014 #16
Not so harmless sometimes. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2014 #17
Yeah, we're currently being "governed" by the idiots here in NC. ladyVet Oct 2014 #25
indeed. outside St Louis and KC with Columbia in between Volaris Oct 2014 #44
Probably it comes from this series of movies. LeftyMom Oct 2014 #46
They should erect the first guillotine hifiguy Oct 2014 #27
If you believe in fairy tiles, it's not much of a stretch to believe other fairy tales. hobbit709 Oct 2014 #3
Hey that's not nice NightWatcher Oct 2014 #5
Like national borders. LanternWaste Oct 2014 #19
did you ask who "they" are? rurallib Oct 2014 #7
That's what I was wondering. Brigid Oct 2014 #10
Do they believe in a shadow government of some kind? leftyladyfrommo Oct 2014 #13
Julia Pierson fadedrose Oct 2014 #18
Them bad old libruls that kiss Obama's Muslin feet, that's who! ladyVet Oct 2014 #26
In these days of troubles fadedrose Oct 2014 #8
These aren't just any Baptists. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2014 #14
my mom belongs to one of those covens I mean churches librechik Oct 2014 #20
Most of these people have very little education or leftyladyfrommo Oct 2014 #22
Try this safeinOhio Oct 2014 #11
I thought of that myself. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2014 #15
Um... shenmue Oct 2014 #21
I just couldn't believe that one. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2014 #23
Ebola crisis??? MohRokTah Oct 2014 #24
my brother was off on that yesterday. he saw some show. nt leftyladyfrommo Oct 2014 #30
These are the kind of hammerheads hifiguy Oct 2014 #28
I seem to know some more sane Baptists. NCTraveler Oct 2014 #29
Me too. Lots who think liberals are intrinsically clueless, but that's about it for crazy. :) Hortensis Oct 2014 #41
It's not because they are bible believing baptist. Sissyk Oct 2014 #31
If ebola is transmitted via blood, then why the hell would "they" want to use a method of execution politicat Oct 2014 #32
they (and Alex Jones) say the Plan is to cut humanity down to 1 billion MisterP Oct 2014 #33
I'd go for 3-4 billion myself, but Retrograde Oct 2014 #34
That's the closest to sensible plan there is; it will take several generations. politicat Oct 2014 #37
um... And that makes sense how? politicat Oct 2014 #35
they never do think out what They always want--power and money? sure, but boundless MisterP Oct 2014 #38
Three of those are why I'm thinking amygdala, actually, and why viral/bacterial. politicat Oct 2014 #40
"They" have been planning to do this ever since Clinton took office jmowreader Oct 2014 #36
i think lthis is tied to taking everyone's guns away.t. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2014 #39
Where are "they" saying this? Packerowner740 Oct 2014 #42
Why use a guillotine when ebola will do the job just as well KinMd Oct 2014 #43
The guillotines one is not new, it's been recycled for years now ck4829 Oct 2014 #45
hey, thanks. now this makes more sense. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2014 #48
so it's the true believers leftyladyfrommo Oct 2014 #49
Why is it always Baptists? Dirty Socialist Oct 2014 #47
Sounds more like the Apostolics than Baptist. ileus Oct 2014 #50
They never evolve, but rather cling to dark conspiracy theories no matter what RKP5637 Oct 2014 #51
Sounds more like your Republican-believing friends than your Bible-believing friends. merrily Oct 2014 #52
Antichrist Stuff? ProfessorGAC Oct 2014 #53
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