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Jim Lane

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57. No, the Republican Party won't go away. The big difference from the Whigs is the primary system.

Reply to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)

Thu Dec 22, 2011, 02:54 AM

Dec 2011

In the 1850's, the Whig leadership that chose the candidates had a cautious, don't-rock-the-boat mentality. There was no place for the abolitionists to go except to form a new party.

These days, such widespread discontent would lead to successful primary challenges to established party favorites. This happened with the Tea Party in 2010. Sometimes (as with the ouster of Senator Bob Bennett) the insurgents succeed in putting one of their own in office. Sometimes (as with the Senate nominations of Sharron Angle and Christine O'Donnell) the insurgent wins the primary, but with a resulting loss in the general election. Sometimes (as in Chuck DeVore's loss of the Senate primary to Carly Fiorina) the insurgent doesn't even win the primary. Generally, though, it's now easier for dissidents to try to take over one of the established major parties than it would be to try to start a new one.

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Whigs... for a couple years I have written here [View all] nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 OP

That would be Whig. Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #1

Wig party? LeftyMom Dec 2011 #2

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A spelling error is not proof of a cognitive failing cthulu2016 Dec 2011 #14

Spell flames are a common method of attack nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #15

I gave you the business below, but in joke form, not just screaming that you're a moron. cthulu2016 Dec 2011 #18

Oh and welcome to DU nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #22

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Are you familiar with disabilities? nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #24

Give it up. LeftyMom Dec 2011 #26

What that you are continuing in your attacks? nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #28

'Give it up' is not an attack, it's a helpful suggestion. LeftyMom Dec 2011 #31

Continue please nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #34

and I love victims... n/t ProdigalJunkMail Dec 2011 #56

I will point out the bullies nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #58

you call everyone who disagrees with your assessments ProdigalJunkMail Dec 2011 #63

She took exception to someone picking on a spelling error. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #64

yes, she never claims victim status ProdigalJunkMail Dec 2011 #71

And YOU would have been very happy about that nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #72

Again, weak. If you don't like people 'claiming victim status', then you should discourage bullying. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #82

Isn't that vigilanteism? pintobean Dec 2011 #91

Oh my. That would be "vigilantism". Now feel the Wrath of LEFTYMOM! The Doctor. Dec 2011 #92

Care to address my point? pintobean Dec 2011 #93

The point that you can't spell? The Doctor. Dec 2011 #94

The bully of bullies is hiding pintobean Dec 2011 #95

Leftymom is the spelling bully here, The Doctor. Dec 2011 #96

LeftyMom is banned from this thread pintobean Dec 2011 #98

I didn't realize you were telepathetic. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #100

The only conclusion that I can come to pintobean Dec 2011 #104

That you have acquiesced to the spelling magistry of LEFTYMOM The Doctor. Dec 2011 #105

Cool sig line, bro. pintobean Dec 2011 #120

Thanks. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #123

Please point out who has even mentioned what the OP is about up to your comment. lunatica Dec 2011 #117

One word describes your behavior here: The Doctor. Dec 2011 #65

Says the poster sending horrible PMs. flvegan Dec 2011 #108

'Horrible'? The Doctor. Dec 2011 #121

So if I read you correctly you're like the Super Troll who attacks the Evil Trolls? snooper2 Dec 2011 #130

Bingo! pintobean Dec 2011 #131

Until the day when the bullies are no more, The Doctor. Dec 2011 #132

I think you've been watching WAY too much Umizoomi, or maybe Wonder Pets? snooper2 Dec 2011 #133

The phone.... The Doctor. Dec 2011 #134

He has his moments pintobean Dec 2011 #135

Is this thread too old to kick? pintobean Jun 2012 #136

That's the best you can do, huh? eShirl Dec 2011 #19

The best I can do? LeftyMom Dec 2011 #23

See above... nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #27

I'm glad you googled now. LeftyMom Dec 2011 #29

Why your insistence on this nastiness nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #33

It appears Zorra Dec 2011 #39

It is a pain nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #41

LeftyMom isn 't a conservative poster obamanut2012 Dec 2011 #62

Thanks. It appears that you are correct with respect Lefty Mom. My mistake. My apologies Zorra Dec 2011 #69

All of us do that sometime obamanut2012 Dec 2011 #70

She definitely is not conservative Marrah_G Dec 2011 #127

Actually, I doubt Freud would have the best answer. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #122

You are really out of line. denbot Dec 2011 #61

You know, you should really look up the use of a 'colon' in writing. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author pintobean Dec 2011 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2011 #77

Please stop- you've made whatever point it is you're trying to make by now. nt Poll_Blind Dec 2011 #90

What the heck is wrong with you today? Marrah_G Dec 2011 #126

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My dad was a holocaust survivor, why the grammar nazi appelation nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #48

Be careful about your pronouncement as to who's looking like the fool Remember Me Dec 2011 #87

Indeed. And an observation not missed by many, I'll wager. nt Poll_Blind Dec 2011 #89

You really are making yourself look like a jerk abelenkpe Dec 2011 #101

No, you made a fool of yourself in another way entirely. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #107

Impressive. flvegan Dec 2011 #109

She put you up to that? The Doctor. Dec 2011 #119

This message was self-deleted by its author chrisa Dec 2011 #118

that was pretty mean Marrah_G Dec 2011 #125

maybe we will see a story about 'Paki's' wearing wigs.... Whisp Dec 2011 #128

. Motown_Johnny Dec 2011 #3

Thanks for the helpful spelling correction nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #10

Here is the head of the Wig party Zorra Dec 2011 #12

+1 Remember Me Dec 2011 #88

haha!!! Whisp Dec 2011 #129

Ron Paul will not run as a third party. He has said so repeatedly. And as for the Republicans SlimJimmy Dec 2011 #43

I worry the 'reasonable' repubs will join the Democratic party. CrispyQ Dec 2011 #67

That's been happening for twenty years. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #76

Where does that leave liberals? CrispyQ Dec 2011 #116

Historic party shifts do happen nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #124

Whig. n/t tammywammy Dec 2011 #4

A friend of mine is pretty high up in the Republican hierarchy, and MannyGoldstein Dec 2011 #5

I'd say shaped charges nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #8

Comb-over party, yes. But the wigs are less popular today. cthulu2016 Dec 2011 #6

Wig or not? (Couldn't help it, LOL) RKP5637 Dec 2011 #7

They injection molded the plastic all in once piece and then painted the hair, like for Ken dolls. LeftyMom Dec 2011 #16

I love it, "Nothing else on that face is factory direct." RKP5637 Dec 2011 #35

Whoa! That is ... what is that? (nt) T S Justly Dec 2011 #37

She is not a very attractive person to me Broderick Dec 2011 #78

Almost like out of a wax museum. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2011 #80

A haunted one Broderick Dec 2011 #83

Definitely!!! RKP5637 Dec 2011 #84

I actually think I remember my Mom throwing some Wig Parties when I was a kid. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2011 #11

Wig party!!!... SidDithers Dec 2011 #13

I've been write there with ya. Only I think we should drown them in the bathtub. How Ironic is that? WingDinger Dec 2011 #17

Well there is one particular ahem... member of the party nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #20

IMO a better comparison is with the Federalists. Odin2005 Dec 2011 #25

It could except that these guys nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #32

I observe the same things, but my hypothesis is different. Gore1FL Dec 2011 #30

Indeed, and that was a similar dynamic with the Whigs nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #36

K&R (nt) T S Justly Dec 2011 #38

I'm glad I missed the mis-spelling of the Whigs. There seem to be some similarities madinmaryland Dec 2011 #40

And it is the koch party that wil probably emerge out of this divorce nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #42

Regardless of the name, it will still be the same party. madinmaryland Dec 2011 #45

alas you have identified WHY the GOP may actually be on it's way out nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #47

I can only hope that you are correct in your assessment. madinmaryland Dec 2011 #49

They were deeply funded nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #50

! CreekDog Dec 2011 #44

The Corporate media won't let that happen..... FrenchieCat Dec 2011 #51

Elite media will try to prevent that nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #52

Wig Party CreekDog Dec 2011 #53

I agree with the premise, but not necessarily the result JCMach1 Dec 2011 #54

The Paulistas are but one branch nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #55

Exactly... and unlike the Whigs I think 'brand' Republican JCMach1 Dec 2011 #60

I guess it will depend truly on how well nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #73

I for one would love to see a multi-party system in America... JCMach1 Dec 2011 #79

We need an Ammendment. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #81

No, the Republican Party won't go away. The big difference from the Whigs is the primary system. Jim Lane Dec 2011 #57

True, but what you are seeing is the extreme dysfunction right now nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #59

Too much structure zipplewrath Dec 2011 #74

And that might be the case nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #75

Here's an idea. When Jeb Bush wins the nomination rhett o rick Dec 2011 #85

And it is not that crazy nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #86

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Mary Christmas to you too nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #99

Does that mean all republicans are folically challenged...... WCGreen Dec 2011 #102

Major difference - In the 1850s the energy in the Whig party was in the progressive wing - which yellowcanine Dec 2011 #103

Of course, there is that nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #106

Why, Why, Why Oldtimeralso Dec 2011 #110

Because my dyslexia got me nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #111

Hmmm nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #112

Interesting Sherman A1 Dec 2011 #113

read the post above this nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #114

Good point. pintobean Dec 2011 #115