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ellisonz

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18. It's not slick excuses. It's just the fact of what is...Spare me the insults...

Thu Dec 22, 2011, 04:36 AM

Dec 2011

...for spreading the facts of why the police do what they do.

There are as many guns as people in this country - record sales this holiday season.

http://charlotte.news14.com/content/top_stories/651422/firearm-sales-hit-record-levels-this-holiday-season

63 so far have been killed by non-accidental hostile gunfire this year alone - 2 yesterday alone. Car fatalities have gone down every year and considering how much they drive that's pretty impressive. Almost twice as many this year have died from gunfire as from car accidents.

http://www.odmp.org/search/year/2011

I don't love the police, I too have been subject to abuse, but I don't deny that they have a very difficult job to do. Would you really want to deal with domestic violence cases or armed robberies?

I'm not diminishing your or my own experiences of police brutality and abuse (no need to go into them, but suffice to say I'm not with them on the drug war), but unless you think there should be no police, you don't have much of a point about why the police are trained to either draw or be ready to draw their weapons in most situations. They often deal with dangerous situations and people.

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Deputy draws gun on family because of Wal-Mart employee's mistake. [View all] RandySF Dec 2011 OP

Surprised they did not call out the swat team. Logical Dec 2011 #1

guns pulled over money CreekDog Dec 2011 #2

Guns weren't pulled over money... ellisonz Dec 2011 #6

guns were pulled because the person was accused of using counterfeit money CreekDog Dec 2011 #7

No. ellisonz Dec 2011 #9

The numbers tend to go in cycles Kennah Dec 2011 #10

It has less to do with the numbers and more to do with the culture... ellisonz Dec 2011 #13

If that were true, then the rise of concealed carry would cause a rise in police deaths by gunfire Kennah Dec 2011 #15

Concealed carry is not really the issue... ellisonz Dec 2011 #16

Most cops would call this deputy an asshat Kennah Dec 2011 #32

why don't they just point their guns at everyone at all times CreekDog Dec 2011 #11

When was the last time you were pulled over? ellisonz Dec 2011 #14

Shh, both of you ARE right nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #30

Correct. ellisonz Dec 2011 #31

That's it baby. Ease us into fascism with slick excuses. DCKit Dec 2011 #17

It's not slick excuses. It's just the fact of what is...Spare me the insults... ellisonz Dec 2011 #18

We're in desperate times, of course the numbers are going to go up. DCKit Dec 2011 #20

I think it might be a better tact... ellisonz Dec 2011 #21

"...the people who flood the streets with handguns and create the paranoia..." DCKit Dec 2011 #22

... ellisonz Dec 2011 #23

In a discussion forum, Heywood J Dec 2011 #24

You're missing part of the context... ellisonz Dec 2011 #25

The police have been doing their share as well whopis01 Dec 2011 #27

IIRC Levi Stubbs was the lead singer for the Four Tops tularetom Dec 2011 #3

Such stupidity prepperdad Dec 2011 #4

What? No pepper spray? proud2BlibKansan Dec 2011 #5

Sue WalMarts ASS rsmith6621 Dec 2011 #8

Soon, paying with cash will make you a terrorism suspect. Zalatix Dec 2011 #12

The imposition of credit/debit card fees shall not be denied! BadgerKid Dec 2011 #26

Walmart has us all on watch when you pull in the drive and until you leave madokie Dec 2011 #19

a black family with $100 bills Enrique Dec 2011 #28

Were they "heavily armed" counterfeit counterfeiters? ddeclue Dec 2011 #29