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uppityperson

(115,674 posts)
69. Disrupt their economy, make sure they don't get supplies, yup, won't hurt US so f* them?
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 03:16 PM
Oct 2014

"We could stop all travel and nothing would be lost." Experts say that is totally wrong.

Might be better all around to quarantine the state. Downwinder Oct 2014 #1
+1 grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #16
That would save us all. appleannie1 Oct 2014 #92
Heeee . ..good one. . . . . n/t annabanana Oct 2014 #2
make Tejas... vt_native Oct 2014 #3
I have friends and family in Texas. redwitch Oct 2014 #6
Texas has an economy relatively the size of Spain. Vermont = Bahrain. I dare say we'd miss Texas... cherokeeprogressive Oct 2014 #23
My son is in culinary school in Vermont. FarPoint Oct 2014 #30
Not to worry Cyrano Oct 2014 #31
Just to be on the safe side though... RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #82
Anyone who gets killed IronLionZion Oct 2014 #112
Good luck to your Son! I'd love to go to culinary school when I retire... cherokeeprogressive Oct 2014 #52
Brett is attending the New England Culinary Institute. FarPoint Oct 2014 #107
Didn't anyone tell you? Size doesn't matter. A Simple Game Oct 2014 #56
+10 nilram Oct 2014 #66
Why isn't Faux insisting we close our borders to them??? ffr Oct 2014 #4
I do think we should stop travel from countries that have uncontrolled outbreaks. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #5
flu kills 50,000 people here every year and is far more infectious than ebola. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #7
Most people recover from the flu--and most people who die from it are compromised TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #8
And the homegirl Oct 2014 #80
"flu doesn't have a 50% plus mortality rate. " hedgehog Oct 2014 #108
It's really impossible to stop travel from Cyrano Oct 2014 #10
No, it's not. They shouldn't be allowed to leave their countries at this point. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #15
I have a much simpler solution, I don't know why you didn't think of it. A Simple Game Oct 2014 #77
Did I offend you in some way? TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #78
No, why would you think so? I only offered a solution that inconveniences one A Simple Game Oct 2014 #91
If it's just an "inconvenience" as you say, then countries in Africa that have TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #93
I long ago ceased letting fear rule my life, you should try it, it makes life so much better. n/t A Simple Game Oct 2014 #95
Aww, condescension, how sweet. Here's some for you: I'm not afraid, dearie. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #97
A nurse with no compassion, I bet the patients loved you. A Simple Game Oct 2014 #99
I always relish the moment when someone who has no idea who I am or TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #101
Sorry you feel that way... dearie. When your ready to talk solutions let me know. A Simple Game Oct 2014 #104
There are no direct flights from Liberia to Dallas - TBF Oct 2014 #11
But their country of origin is what should restrict their movements, not where the TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #12
That's fine but what about the folks who run TBF Oct 2014 #19
Flights in to allow aid, food, medicine, commerce--all fine. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #35
Because "I don't need to leave this country--why do they need to leave theirs?" upthread uppityperson Oct 2014 #36
Absolutely true. A temporary travel ban is very much in order, and common sense. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #43
I would rather see resources spent treating and finding and educating people than patrolling uppityperson Oct 2014 #46
I believe we should aid the countries involved. I also believe that allowing the TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #54
You want the Liberian gvt to blockade their borders so no one can walk, bike, drive, fly, boat to uppityperson Oct 2014 #22
Yes. It's common sense. If the situation is so dire that the US military TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #32
Ah, this is because "OUR troops" are helping, because "we" have gotten involved when it is simpler uppityperson Oct 2014 #37
They need help, but they shouldn't be allowed to travel around the world with this shit. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #41
How do you know country of origin if they drive out of Liberia to another country? Thor_MN Oct 2014 #29
Well, there's no 100% way of stopping any sort of human behavior, but that doesn't TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #33
And you believe that Liberia has air tight borders? Thor_MN Oct 2014 #38
No. But that shouldn't stop common sense policies and effort. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #39
Your "common sense" policies would dictate that other countries close our borders Thor_MN Oct 2014 #44
If we have a rampant ebola problem, they probably should restrict travel from the US TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #51
And you believe that the US would accept other countries closing our borders? Thor_MN Oct 2014 #57
We should do it ourselves if we had multi-state outbreaks or an epidemic. It's not likely to happen TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #60
I ask again, would we accept other countries doing this to the US? Thor_MN Oct 2014 #81
I have no idea how other countries would react to a big outbreak of ebola here. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #83
So you have no idea if it would be considered an act of war? Thor_MN Oct 2014 #85
?? Act of war? Other countries don't have to automatically accept travelers or immigrants. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #86
You have called for externally shutting down Liberia's border. Thor_MN Oct 2014 #87
I called for a travel ban except on necessary travel. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #88
Are you paying ANY attention? Thor_MN Oct 2014 #90
But they have to have passports, don't they? TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #94
Yes, and some of the people leaving Liberia, may have passports from Liberia. Thor_MN Oct 2014 #100
If they've been living in France for five years and originated the flight from France, TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #102
You could go to Liberia and lobby for them to close their borders... Thor_MN Oct 2014 #103
I am not sure what you are thinking the Liberian border looks like, but wtf. Here, try these... uppityperson Oct 2014 #42
So? Even if some people sneak across borders, that doesn't mean we should allow TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #45
"They shouldn't be allowed to leave their countries at this point" is what you said. How do you make uppityperson Oct 2014 #49
Passports, visas turned down for air travel and border crossings. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #53
Walk through the forest to the next country. Hop in a small boat to paddle next door. uppityperson Oct 2014 #55
There's no 100% foolproof way to stop people's movements, but you don't have to make TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #58
So how would you go about securing those borders? uppityperson Oct 2014 #59
Did Duncan have to go elsewhere to get on a plane, or did he get on a plane in TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #62
Gotcha, you'd close 1 mile, leave the other 999 miles open. uppityperson Oct 2014 #67
Well, he sat down in a tube and ended up in another continent, effortlessly. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #68
You not only ignore 99.99% of the border but now say MDuncan should not have been helped? uppityperson Oct 2014 #70
Never said "blockade"--said unnecessary flights and travel. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #73
"They shouldn't be allowed to leave their countries at this point." Copy/pasted, link below uppityperson Oct 2014 #74
I don't think I contradicted myself. Most travel IS unnecessary in the face of a TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #75
You're right. It's pretty simple, actually LittleBlue Oct 2014 #79
Don't you get tired of moving those goalposts? uppityperson Oct 2014 #96
I didn't move any. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #98
Then logic dictates we stop TX flights, too. grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #17
We're not dealing with a whole TBF Oct 2014 #27
Noticed that, did you? DeadLetterOffice Oct 2014 #106
If there's a big outbreak in TX, then yes. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #63
BINGO! LittleBlue Oct 2014 #40
And there it is. "Stopping all travel to west Africa loses us nothing" uppityperson Oct 2014 #61
I won't apologize for putting ourselves first LittleBlue Oct 2014 #64
Disrupt their economy, make sure they don't get supplies, yup, won't hurt US so f* them? uppityperson Oct 2014 #69
What economy? LittleBlue Oct 2014 #71
The only economy you can think of for Liberia is tourism? Seriously? uppityperson Oct 2014 #72
So quarantining people would halt all commerce? LittleBlue Oct 2014 #76
Build a wall along OK, NM, AR, LA, and Mexico!!! Seal off TX!!! valerief Oct 2014 #9
Give it a rest. LisaL Oct 2014 #13
My op isn't a put down of Texas Cyrano Oct 2014 #18
Most of us understood what you meant Oilwellian Oct 2014 #28
I knew I should have put the sarcasm tag in there for the sarcasm-impaired. nt valerief Oct 2014 #21
I'm sure the nurse's and Mr. Duncan's family have broke some ribs from laughing so hard./NT DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2014 #24
There's already a fence on the Mexican side Cyrano Oct 2014 #14
Yeah, we know how well that works. TBF Oct 2014 #20
As long as the Texas Air Nationals Guard declares a no-fly zone, we'll feel safer... Sancho Oct 2014 #110
you know. i do have one particular little repug, that was truly offensively nasty when duncan seabeyond Oct 2014 #25
We need to shoot down all international flights that enter our airspace also because they might be uppityperson Oct 2014 #26
Let's build a wall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Marrah_G Oct 2014 #34
ebola might come over the border into new mexico!! Voice for Peace Oct 2014 #47
They don't need to get bitten as long as Texans are eating road-kill stew! Sancho Oct 2014 #111
Did it before, do it again. Oklahoma national guard to the Red River because of Texans... jtuck004 Oct 2014 #48
I'd say nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. n/t Ron Obvious Oct 2014 #50
Yeah, but there's always one Cyrano Oct 2014 #105
shut down the Texas borders! librechik Oct 2014 #65
Nuke 'em! world wide wally Oct 2014 #84
Our southern border..... Mustellus Oct 2014 #89
On a more serious note - before locking the entire country of Liberia into quarantine, educate hedgehog Oct 2014 #109
Texas' GOP politicians should be preemtively quarantined IronLionZion Oct 2014 #113
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