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71. Can we deal with facts and reality?

Sun Oct 19, 2014, 08:17 PM

Oct 2014

I'm one who often tosses out the comments, "it's Texas, what do you expect?"..or "welcome to the South.." when small minded, racist atrocities occur. Yes, it happens in the north too. Yes, it happens in progressive pockets around the world. But now reality and facts come into play....it is much more common to hear some offensive, backward, racist, evangelical bible-thumping stunt raising it's ugly head out of the South...much more common.
I'm trying to think of the key players for stupid-backward thinking fear mongering; and names like Louie gohmert, Michelle Bachmann, Ted Cruz, Rick perry, Marsha Blackburn, Steve king, Jefferson sessions, Jim inhofe, Tom Coburn, rand Paul, ms. Lindsey graham, mark Sanford, joe Wilson....and the list goes on and on. Where are they from? You guessed it. Sadly, these clowns ARE representatives of the people from those districts and states.

I rest my case.

I also realize there are MILLIONS of good progressive thinking Americans living in those places. It has to be awful to be surrounded by so much stupid.

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5 Reasons to Stop Talking Sh*t About People From the South and Midwest [View all] YoungDemCA Oct 2014 OP

Is it OK to mock ... GeorgeGist Oct 2014 #1

I live in Kansas. It is a hell hole of GOP idiots. Insult us all you want. nt Logical Oct 2014 #2

I live in Minnesota Kalidurga Oct 2014 #5

I visit Minnesota every summer. Love it there. Relaxing by a lake is the best rest ever. nt Logical Oct 2014 #8

I was raised and live in The South. It's a shit hole of ignorance and tea-baggerism, too. Hissyspit Oct 2014 #7

I dislike it in a pretty extreme way Kalidurga Oct 2014 #12

"And it's not the ones struggling that are making the bad policies." Hissyspit Oct 2014 #14

Well... Kalidurga Oct 2014 #18

Not correct. Only 50%+1... Whiskeytide Oct 2014 #55

I get your point. Jamastiene Oct 2014 #89

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #118

I don't know what name removed said to you Kalidurga Oct 2014 #242

So did California. former9thward Oct 2014 #78

No. I didn't. Hissyspit Oct 2014 #100

Talk about overgeneralization Art_from_Ark Oct 2014 #160

Pound for pound Hissyspit Oct 2014 #246

What is that map even supposed to mean? Art_from_Ark Oct 2014 #276

It's a screen capture from a video. Hissyspit Oct 2014 #294

I didn't present anything about the Waltons Art_from_Ark Oct 2014 #296

I hate to remember it... Tweedy Oct 2014 #90

Why are you giving California a pass? cordelia Oct 2014 #172

I'm not. Hissyspit Oct 2014 #195

But do you hate everyone in California as much as you hate all of us cordelia Oct 2014 #244

I don't hate anyone. Hissyspit Oct 2014 #245

what gets me is heaven05 Oct 2014 #185

They vote their principles! Unfortunately, scoundrels know how to use those to control and direct. Hortensis Oct 2014 #324

Left the mid-west over 30 years ago Califa Oct 2014 #227

Iowa, bout to elect a bagger to Senate Strelnikov_ Oct 2014 #21

Thanks for the positive attitude rurallib Oct 2014 #41

I don't live on the big rock candy mountain Strelnikov_ Oct 2014 #49

+ 1000 nt Logical Oct 2014 #65

Yes, all Iowans will vote for her. progressoid Oct 2014 #214

Ditto for me in Texas LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #31

I feel your pain! nt Logical Oct 2014 #36

Ditto for me in Virginia. Yeah, VA went for Obama, but only because a lot Nay Oct 2014 #56

I'm guessing you're talking strictly about state government (and Federal Senators) kentauros Oct 2014 #282

State and Federal LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #284

Sure we do. kentauros Oct 2014 #285

Because State and Federal representatives LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #286

Excuse me, but the Federal Senate is not a body of one. kentauros Oct 2014 #289

The point stands LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #292

As does my point. kentauros Oct 2014 #298

Pennsylvania Treant Oct 2014 #59

And insult Terre Haute IN all you want. Brigid Oct 2014 #62

Ok. Terre Haute, through which flows the mighty Wabash, home of St. Mary's, ISU and RHIT, a... xocet Oct 2014 #69

How could I forget Steve Martin? Brigid Oct 2014 #75

That's too bad about the Indiana Theater... xocet Oct 2014 #101

Usually followed by "cleaning woman". Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #194

??? xocet Oct 2014 #228

... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #230

Thank you for the video elaboration. xocet Oct 2014 #233

What's cool about it is how they spliced in old clips from classics to fit.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #237

I can deal with GOP idiots, but in Kansas stupidity is deified. Vattel Oct 2014 #98

I was born & live in Georgia... SkyDaddy7 Oct 2014 #175

This message was self-deleted by its author LeftinOH Oct 2014 #176

I'm from the Christian Republic of Alabama, cheapdate Oct 2014 #225

A state that routinely elects Democratic Governors is something to be proud of. nt hack89 Oct 2014 #305

Suck it up. The truth hurts. dballance Oct 2014 #3

Do you think rascist behavior is limited to the South??? CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #9

I have never seen a Confederate flag flown in the North... TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #19

Small town rural NW PA, see plenty here. Ignorance abounds. nt Mnemosyne Oct 2014 #29

That's a symbol... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #30

I have. Fawke Em Oct 2014 #32

NJ Teen suspended for flag... but they fly the flag over the South Carolina Capitol ... TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #37

Uh.... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #77

Uh... why don't we pretend to forget about "state boundaries" for a second... TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #136

I guess this map will surprise you theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #139

COMPLETELY DISINGENUOUS ARGUMENT! TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #145

You asked, "Where are most of the racists grouped in the United States?" theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #148

You posted a map of the Number of Groups.. not the number of actual PEOPLE in the those GROUPS TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #154

I'd call that which I specifically asked for "disingenuous" too... LanternWaste Oct 2014 #153

Attack the messenger, because you can't accept the facts. TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #155

Nothing disingenuous about it. cordelia Oct 2014 #178

Take a deep looking into the facts about that map linked TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #187

Good point. The SPLC's counts are not good statistical indicators of actual participation. Hortensis Oct 2014 #325

I said I wasn't going to respond again... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #208

you didn't actually look at what they defined as a "hate group" TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #210

I'm well aware.... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #226

The north is more segregated than the south gollygee Oct 2014 #309

Thanks for posting that marions ghost Oct 2014 #197

Uh.. CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #158

"makes me wonder if there are other things about the South you don't like".... TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #162

Oh for goodness sakes.... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #165

"none of us" like these people, but Texans do! Everyone on my list was elected by Texans TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #171

If you can't identifly the good ones... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #188

"to only call Southerners who do not vote' TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #191

We can all talk shit about a lot of things.... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #269

Something I don't like about the South is the fact that every Southern State is among the 29 Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #170

I can add to the list.. just for Texas. TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #174

That's true. theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #179

Of course it isn't okay..... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #266

There are racist heaven05 Oct 2014 #190

Well said... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #268

You'd be surprised where many of these attitudes crop up... elzenmahn Oct 2014 #181

A lot of that stems from Dust Bowl migration patterns. Starry Messenger Oct 2014 #196

"There's a nut serving as governor of South Carolina" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2014 #253

Well of course she didn't.... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #258

I just wanted to say... theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #260

Thanks.... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #270

But your defense of the South Carolina confederate flag put it all on her ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2014 #271

Where in the heck did I defend the Conferderate flag.... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #277

Yeah, it should be fixed ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2014 #278

I wasn't a bit sorry... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #280

But CEOs don't mind it. stage left Oct 2014 #238

Then you haven't been to Northern California. Throd Oct 2014 #39

Northern California.. the bastion of Confederate Flag waivers... yeah, ok TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #42

On car lots no, but they still aren't hard to find around here. Throd Oct 2014 #50

If you're talking about Mendocino County and places north... elzenmahn Oct 2014 #183

Many Pockets Needa Moment Oct 2014 #212

Racism is racism. joeglow3 Oct 2014 #91

I have outside Chicago more than once in the last year alone and on truck bumpers too but I still feel safe going around because it is lunasun Oct 2014 #46

Here in NE WI Worried senior Oct 2014 #48

Which are more common in WI.. Confederate Flags or Bigfoot? TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #53

Wisconsin has a lot of narrow-minded provincialism and racism marions ghost Oct 2014 #198

Really? i've seen them flying on the back of trucks all over Oregon. F4lconF16 Oct 2014 #67

I've seen a big one flown in south-central Pennsylvania RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #73

Just sayin' CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #76

I have seen them in Indiana TNNurse Oct 2014 #79

(I don't think you understand what racism is) TimeToGo Oct 2014 #81

Really? I don't know what racism is? dballance Oct 2014 #124

I think you've got a good point. And some of those people displaying those things raccoon Oct 2014 #134

Only going by what you wrote in the first post TimeToGo Oct 2014 #161

I used to see them all over rural Ohio when I lived there. hobbit709 Oct 2014 #132

Jeebus, they're all over here. jen63 Oct 2014 #231

I've seen it in New Jersey fishwax Oct 2014 #135

Upstate, NY. There's one right down the road. Inkfreak Oct 2014 #137

Really. WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #141

I lived in Boston for 10 years... TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #243

Well, since I'm in New Hampshire WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #247

They're everywhere, but you can't take the challenge! TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #252

"one in ten thousand in New England states" WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #257

William... you got called out... you couldn't even show ONE TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #263

I never disputed that. WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #264

I guess you didn't read any of my other posts.... TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #265

You are correct WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #267

"I did not read your other replies. Why should I?" TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #301

Durr. WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #303

You want one? Here you go. Here's a few.... MADem Oct 2014 #293

Hey you found one.. posted in 2012! TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #302

Plenty more where these came from theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #314

lots of blue links.. no actual photos taken by you! TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #316

Just keep moving those goalposts theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #319

Not really.. I am just letting DUers try so hard to prove their flag sightings... TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #320

They wear the Confederate flag on their belt buckles up North Art_from_Ark Oct 2014 #146

Good ol' boys from anywhere have the confederate flag in the back window of their pickem up truck liberal N proud Oct 2014 #173

Wow you need to get out more then. I'm from the South and make an annual trip to Indiana. Hosnon Oct 2014 #239

There's a pick-up truck being driven on I-84 from the Pa stateline to Ulster County flying one In_The_Wind Oct 2014 #281

I will give you I have never seen a confederate flag flown here in Western NY Liberalynn Oct 2014 #283

The South is not segregated like the North hack89 Oct 2014 #306

Then you've never to Michigan gollygee Oct 2014 #308

No, I do not think racist behavior is limited to the South. dballance Oct 2014 #58

Racism is part of the 'culture' of the south.... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #92

Well, no. I don't think racist behavior is limited to the South. dballance Oct 2014 #88

You don't have to be in the south to see the KKK Revanchist Oct 2014 #130

Of course there is racism in the East and West Coasts.... but we ELECT DEMOCRATS! TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #133

I'm assuming your talking about presidential elections Revanchist Oct 2014 #167

Of course not, but they raise it to an art form in some places. Adrahil Oct 2014 #192

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #119

Bullshit cordelia Oct 2014 #248

I am not foofy shenmue Oct 2014 #4

Thank you. CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #10

Thank you. shenmue Oct 2014 #20

Don't do that. Jamastiene Oct 2014 #125

Thank you. shenmue Oct 2014 #166

Most people live on the coasts, or most live in patchs of high density metro areas HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #149

Human is as human does. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #6

Seriously???? CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #11

When enough Southerners wise up and start voting for their own interests, JDPriestly Oct 2014 #93

No one asked for your apology... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #103

At the moment, the fools in California are in the minority. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #112

California inflicted St. Ronnie Reagan on all of us. cordelia Oct 2014 #189

I lived in a Southern state in my teens. It was a horrible experience. Just traumatic. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #193

I am sorry your experience... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #275

Ronald Reagan was governor of California in the late '60s and early '70s. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #251

Yes, we all know that California is the bestestest state that has ever cordelia Oct 2014 #299

I'm proud of my state, and for good reason. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #315

This message was self-deleted by its author appalachiablue Oct 2014 #236

You have a point about the media. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #250

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #120

...takes one to know one. Fawke Em Oct 2014 #33

See my post #93. You probably aren't a typical Southerner. You are probably one of the JDPriestly Oct 2014 #94

I do, but on this board I'm always considered an idot, Fawke Em Oct 2014 #322

I'm hoping, praying that Alison Lundergan Grimes will win in Kentucky. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #323

I agree completely A Little Weird Oct 2014 #13

Yes, ALW, it is very easy to be ensconced in a liberal enclave and to rail against the japple Oct 2014 #24

Thank you. As one who lives in the South, I am so tired of being lumped in with japple Oct 2014 #15

Not true... they are not in every community.. especially gun nuts. TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #22

I am sure there are members of fundamental religious groups and hate groups where you japple Oct 2014 #25

AND you are seriously mistaken if you think those gun-nuts are limited to the South. Where have japple Oct 2014 #80

Good thing there are no crazy gun nuts in Connecticut or Colorado .. oh wait. nt hack89 Oct 2014 #312

Same percentage? Really? nt Logical Oct 2014 #43

Hey what are you sayin about snake handlers....? marions ghost Oct 2014 #201

The one thing to remember in threads like this, kentauros Oct 2014 #234

I live in Florida and the large amout of Dumb Asses here are about to elect ... BlueJazz Oct 2014 #16

All the evidence about Scott and they still flock to him. Idiocracy is alive and well! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2014 #84

"..a Con-Man, a Crook, a Shyster and a Criminal as their Governor AGAIN. " NCTraveler Oct 2014 #223

No, sorry. It's warranted. DrBulldog Oct 2014 #17

+1000 Katashi_itto Oct 2014 #51

I live in Minnesota and every Jenoch Oct 2014 #54

I think a lot of those cognitive ones do move to the more enlightened areas. Lucky Luciano Oct 2014 #60

I tend to agree Treant Oct 2014 #61

+1 Exactly! lunasun Oct 2014 #95

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #121

Actually, we have a better plan. jeff47 Oct 2014 #202

Chicago Pizza kicks the everloving crap out of New York Pizza. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #23

Have you ever heard of Sicilian pizza? shenmue Oct 2014 #82

No, but indeed it sounds tempting! Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #87

From, and sadly live, in Texas here Liberalagogo Oct 2014 #26

Texas born and bred here too. Rozlee Oct 2014 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author iandhr Oct 2014 #27

I grew up in Tennessee and there were a lot of dumb hicks there tularetom Oct 2014 #28

^^^THIS^^^. Bible Belt = extraordinarily stupid. nt valerief Oct 2014 #224

I live among those that are mocked in the South. Believe me, I get it. Hoyt Oct 2014 #34

Why do you stay there? NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #52

That assumes LWolf Oct 2014 #35

It is no insult to call a predominately ignorant region predominately ignorant. EEO Oct 2014 #38

If I lived in Kentucky, I'd have to vote for a candidate who supports coal and guns RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #40

Bingo on your parenthetical statement at the end! +1 for that! Lucky Luciano Oct 2014 #64

Are we just bashing white southerners in this thread, or all southerners? Throd Oct 2014 #44

Just white ones, I think. Jamastiene Oct 2014 #126

It would be wonderful if humans would stop dehumanizing their fellow humans MerryBlooms Oct 2014 #45

Is it just limited to talking? Because we know of strategies that really don't include talking. Tikki Oct 2014 #47

I'm from a New England family and grew up outside New York. DamnYankeeInHouston Oct 2014 #57

As a native Houstonian, I support this post! kentauros Oct 2014 #159

Houston rocks marions ghost Oct 2014 #203

Another native Houstonian here! Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2014 #256

Okay so we can start on Californiacs! whistler162 Oct 2014 #63

Which California? Throd Oct 2014 #66

Coast vs. inland can be quite a striking contrast, true. nomorenomore08 Oct 2014 #72

Google California Jim Crow Laws and feast your eyes. Brigid Oct 2014 #99

sure, even the Democrats in California are idiots, look at how they voted for Arnold JI7 Oct 2014 #122

I live in Arkansas and want you to insult us WhiteTara Oct 2014 #68

I was born in SC and currently live there. stage left Oct 2014 #70

So many good posts on this thread stopwastingmymoney Oct 2014 #109

You're Welcome. stage left Oct 2014 #235

Can we deal with facts and reality? Hulk Oct 2014 #71

I don�t know about your theory... bongo_x Oct 2014 #114

Right... Hulk Oct 2014 #116

We were flown over once in New Orleans New Orleans Strong Oct 2014 #74

This is my two cents, TNNurse Oct 2014 #85

I grew up in the south abelenkpe Oct 2014 #86

The old saying... DAMANgoldberg Oct 2014 #96

RTR! Hi from the Ham.. stonecutter357 Oct 2014 #204

Why don't I ever hear this sentiment directed the other way? Marr Oct 2014 #97

There are two kinds: bongo_x Oct 2014 #102

Being from Indiana, I can understand the mockery... LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #104

True bongo_x Oct 2014 #105

Very true Hulk Oct 2014 #117

That's why NC voted for Obama in 2008 jeff47 Oct 2014 #199

Right marions ghost Oct 2014 #205

It's more that they're moving away instead of being smarter. jeff47 Oct 2014 #207

have to differ a bit marions ghost Oct 2014 #211

Of course they aren't all Dems. But they want different things jeff47 Oct 2014 #217

Washingtonian here.... eyeofnewt Oct 2014 #220

This message was self-deleted by its author appalachiablue Oct 2014 #288

Born in Texas ALBliberal Oct 2014 #106

The only dismissals are against those that dismiss us, and it doesn't matter where they are still_one Oct 2014 #107

Greetings from Appalachia theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #108

You just knocked it out of the park! Behind the Aegis Oct 2014 #123

Same argument bigots use against blacks TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #150

This message was self-deleted by its author appalachiablue Oct 2014 #249

Ah, the people of Appalachia. Brigid Oct 2014 #273

Great article. Thank you. WhiteAndNerdy Oct 2014 #110

I take exception to the idea that "flyover country" is dehumanizing. intheflow Oct 2014 #111

Identities are silly bullshit. ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #113

The only term I saw the term "flyover country" used JonLP24 Oct 2014 #115

This message was self-deleted by its author Scootaloo Oct 2014 #127

I'm from the south. And I have no intent of ever returning Scootaloo Oct 2014 #128

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #129

I totally agree... just look how defensive DU er's about where they live. TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #131

But "we elect Democrats to represent us" theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #140

Well put. /nt Marr Oct 2014 #218

I'm like 5th generation South and have never encountered that version of Southern culture. Hosnon Oct 2014 #240

But it feels good to generalize and finger point. Inkfreak Oct 2014 #138

Randy Newman bvf Oct 2014 #142

It's not about where you are.. HoosierCowboy Oct 2014 #143

"North vs. South" kentauros Oct 2014 #144

"and everyone in the South"... not all, just a majority. TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #147

I wrote it that way because those are the normal generalizations that people use. kentauros Oct 2014 #152

Very much the opposite in England. whatthehey Oct 2014 #213

Thanks for the information. kentauros Oct 2014 #219

If the South didn't vote Republican so reliably... Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #151

but. but.. but... TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #156

Iowa is a leader in gay marriage. roody Oct 2014 #157

Meh! ProfessorGAC Oct 2014 #163

I've visited lots of forums. This one has a defining blindness whatthehey Oct 2014 #164

Well.. Texas did give us Billy Gibbons TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #177

I live in the South...always have.... AlbertCat Oct 2014 #168

You should hear what the people in the Midwest say about the coasters liberal N proud Oct 2014 #169

We can take it! Seriously... TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #180

A little story for you: Brigid Oct 2014 #222

Why would any one who lives on the coasts give a crap what anyone in the midwest has to say about Youdontwantthetruth Oct 2014 #327

#NotAllSoutherners Blue_Adept Oct 2014 #182

When you've experienced this kind of stereotyping throughout your life... theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #186

That assumes such stereotyping is only directed at these areas. jeff47 Oct 2014 #206

Colorado about to join the ranks of teabagger senators mountain grammy Oct 2014 #184

You can whine all you want about the south and Midwest being "picked on", but world wide wally Oct 2014 #200

On this issue, the GOP has us where they want us. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #209

Divide and conquer. So right. The old tactic, works every time. GOP wins. appalachiablue Oct 2014 #279

Nailed it. theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #287

I've heard the expression before on DU: Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #290

I've been posting about this issue for years theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #295

Intolerance in politics is at best painting into a corner; Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #307

Since a lot of the posters here don't seem to have read the article... beerandjesus Oct 2014 #215

I'm afraid the "liberal" culture warriors are winning the battle in DU. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #291

Exactly. beerandjesus Oct 2014 #304

Well said. theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #310

Very well put, esp. about "default" positions... Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #311

The Tillman Act of 1907... beerandjesus Oct 2014 #313

They want to secede and fly the Confederate flag - vkkv Oct 2014 #216

I am from Ann Arbor, MI, which is sapphire blue in the "flyover country." muntrv Oct 2014 #221

One visit to Georgia politics and you would talk sh*t too! mfcorey1 Oct 2014 #229

Don't forget Chris Christie! Ugh! Hosnon Oct 2014 #241

being someone who lives in the south bowens43 Oct 2014 #232

You will NOT ever see this in the Northeast or the West Coast! TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #254

Won't hear trash talk from me about your states! Liberalynn Oct 2014 #255

The Midwest is often referred to as the "Heartland" and "The REAL America". Aristus Oct 2014 #259

I see more than a few posters say that the residents of their state are stupid or dumb and should CBGLuthier Oct 2014 #261

I've noticed that, too, and do not agree that attitude. kentauros Oct 2014 #272

Ignorance or Intelligence can have little to with an IQ test Liberalynn Oct 2014 #274

I'm just a hard headed Midwesterner, raised by hard headed Midwesterners. Brigid Oct 2014 #262

Nice post Jethro!!! U4ikLefty Oct 2014 #297

The reason we can't have nice things like universal healthcare is because of the South mb999 Oct 2014 #300

I keep bumping this entire thread... TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #317

Judge people UglyGreed Oct 2014 #318

never heard the term "flyover peope" till today shireen Oct 2014 #321

When the regions in question start supporting themselves and not have to rely on the support of the Youdontwantthetruth Oct 2014 #326

With friends like you . . . Brigid Oct 2014 #328