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20. I have no idea and neither do you because the results of the grand jury ARE NOT OUT YET

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 10:43 AM

Oct 2014

But, in reading the entire article which few around here ever do---

last two paragraphs-

“There was a struggle over the weapon. Law enforcement, we know that about half the officers killed every year with firearms are killed with their own,” he said. “If there was a struggle inside that car over a firearm, it sounds to me like Officer Wilson would have been justified in taking the action he did if he pulled the trigger and actually shot Michael Brown in the vehicle area.”

“If Michael Brown was truly turned around and basically charging the officer, he already went for round one fighting over his handgun. Are you going to go for round two and take the chance of losing it this time?” Fitch asked. “I think that would be a more logical explanation as to why Officer Wilson would have discharged his firearm at Michael Brown.”

Oh, and as an aside, did you know Charlemagne was a fundie?

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Leaked autopsy report supports Darren Wilson�s account of Michael Brown shooting [View all] still_one Oct 2014 OP

I'm sure it does. PDJane Oct 2014 #1

And tamper with the forensic evidence? (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #24

Even if true, no reason to shoot to kill after Brown raised his hands. djean111 Oct 2014 #2

That is the correct answer still_one Oct 2014 #4

correct, a rational person would realize that this cop got the shit scared out of him snooper2 Oct 2014 #12

"This evidence". What evidence? Do you think probable cause exists to indict KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #16

I have no idea and neither do you because the results of the grand jury ARE NOT OUT YET snooper2 Oct 2014 #20

Please explain how a wound on Brown's hand corroborates in any meaningful way KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #22

explain how a bullet going from the tip of your thumb toward your wrist is a defensive wound snooper2 Oct 2014 #23

Well, given that the word 'Fundamentalism' stems from the latter stages of the Protestant KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #25

yes, the "father of Europe" was an asshole and a fundie, sorry snooper2 Oct 2014 #27

Seriously? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #46

Thank you. Depending upon how Wilson brandished his weapon at Brown -- and KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #54

I'd love to see a reenactment, showing how he could grab a holstered gun inside an SUV arcane1 Oct 2014 #65

I've elsewhere called that scenario of Brown 'going after Wilson's gun' utterly KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #68

there's a big IF there hfojvt Oct 2014 #34

you're still assuming that he did TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #32

Wait the doctor examined documents. upaloopa Oct 2014 #3

"a significant altercation in the car" does not corroborate Wilson's account, which was that Brown merrily Oct 2014 #5

Has Wilson's actual account of the shooting been released? All I've seen is other people telling Arkansas Granny Oct 2014 #14

Good point. The sources of the leaks have not been named. merrily Oct 2014 #18

It was leaked to reporters for the NY Times last Friday in a late-night KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #19

And the second/third hand retelling of "Wilson's account" Bettie Oct 2014 #30

no one in authority said he had a fractured eye socket TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #35

That whole 2nd paragraph negates the title Starry Messenger Oct 2014 #6

My theory atreides1 Oct 2014 #7

I don't see how that couldn't be a defensive wound. Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #13

the part that doesn't make sense though hfojvt Oct 2014 #36

Why do you assume the 'pull' was 'during the struggle', as opposed to what initiated Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #49

maybe hfojvt Oct 2014 #56

Who knows how much adrenaline flows through the system when Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #52

audacious is one thing hfojvt Oct 2014 #57

Because you assume he will submit. Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #61

How does one pull a 6' 5' 290 lb through the window of a SUV? Boudica the Lyoness Oct 2014 #63

Here is what another source says Eugene Stoner Oct 2014 #8

I thought early on the chief of Ferguson PD said wilson did not know of the logosoco Oct 2014 #21

When you start with a conclusion phil89 Oct 2014 #41

UPDATED: Former Police Chief Speaks on Latest Michael Brown Shooting Information Eugene Stoner Oct 2014 #26

The difference in Wilson's account and the witness accounts is what troubles me. Arkansas Granny Oct 2014 #9

Johnson's "account" has been proven to be nonsense XemaSab Oct 2014 #10

Yep. n/t Travelman Oct 2014 #66

No, it doesn't. All the autopsy report confirms is that Wilson's KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #11

If the evidence supports prosecution of Wilson then Eugene Stoner Oct 2014 #17

I am not putting much stock into wilson's version, since he conveniently killed logosoco Oct 2014 #15

Pushing a cop's gun away in defense? phil89 Oct 2014 #43

Apparently about the same as just Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #50

Considering how the scenario started it never had a chance of ending well. logosoco Oct 2014 #55

Based on this and other evidence which has leaked out 3rdwaydem Oct 2014 #28

Thank you for posting that link...... BronxBoy Oct 2014 #58

Sadly, you are right. Consider, 3rdwaydem Oct 2014 #59

It's done.... BronxBoy Oct 2014 #62

Sadly, I have to agree with you 3rdwaydem Oct 2014 #64

Most, if not all, the witnesses say there was an altercation at the car. But the autopsy does not Hoyt Oct 2014 #29

They have free reign damnedifIknow Oct 2014 #31

Let me just say, I have my doubts that this was not tampered with... joeybee12 Oct 2014 #33

There's at least one witness that the grand jury questioned who claimed TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #44

Um...has the grand jury finished? Did they rule to indict or not? joeybee12 Oct 2014 #60

It would also support Dorion Johnson's version of events justiceischeap Oct 2014 #37

And a cop would pull someone into a vehicle phil89 Oct 2014 #45

Because he's human and sometimes humans do irrational or illogical justiceischeap Oct 2014 #47

Brown had just robbed a store. Boudica the Lyoness Oct 2014 #67

Yes, Brown had just robbed a store and the chief of police stated categorically justiceischeap Oct 2014 #69

Yes he did know something about it. Boudica the Lyoness Oct 2014 #70

Hands up, don't shoot. JaneyVee Oct 2014 #38

It supports the altercation at the car when arthritisR_US Oct 2014 #39

Most of us already knew that Brown would never get any kind of justice Rex Oct 2014 #40

they are trying to distract from the fact that mr brown was in the street AWAY belzabubba333 Oct 2014 #42

So, in the final analysis, Michael Brown was murdered for jaywalking... TeeYiYi Oct 2014 #48

How does this information compare to the autopsy done by Dr Michael Baden? herding cats Oct 2014 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Oct 2014 #53

Fuck the Police. JEB Oct 2014 #71