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4. +100000 That old Third Way messaging problem.

Tue Oct 28, 2014, 06:06 AM

Oct 2014

It's a perilous tightrope walk, to have to claim to support the same values and principles and goals as traditional Democrats, while *carrying out* a corporate-backed policy agenda that consists of exactly the opposite.

No wonder Third Way messaging feels bizarre and crazy-making. There's always that abrupt, painful oscillation between claiming vehemently that they represent the same progressive values and goals as other Democrats (e.g., "The President wants the same things you do. He just can't get them PASSED right now!&quot ...

...and then accusing other Democrats of being extreme and "fringe" and unreasonable for having those very values and goals.

A clearer word for it is "lying."

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Hillary backpedals. Again. [View all] cali Oct 2014 OP

she supports future outsourcing as well with TPP. obxhead Oct 2014 #1

I think her record's been pretty clear on those points all along. n/t AngryOldDem Oct 2014 #17

Not that easy, trying to mix Corporatism with Populism, I guess. n/t djean111 Oct 2014 #2

+100000 That old Third Way messaging problem. woo me with science Oct 2014 #4

I wonder how long it will take for the Hillary IS TOO A LIBERAL chart to appear today. n/t djean111 Oct 2014 #5

Don't look at the reality in front of you. woo me with science Oct 2014 #6

Orwell didn't take the internet into consideration - now we can ask "where does the TPP fit djean111 Oct 2014 #7

It does not seem that TPP is a good trade agreement, but Democrats support them more than pampango Oct 2014 #21

+10000000 That's why woo me with science Oct 2014 #65

I wonder if she is a socialist, like Obama. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #11

Almost exactly like Obama. nt MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #14

It's a real challenge. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #10

Corporations are people, my friend. Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #37

Wouldn't it just be easier for her to get on the phone with her big-dollar donors Maedhros Oct 2014 #49

Oil and water. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #52

sell your soul, imthevicar Oct 2014 #3

More Hillary bashing. Kingofalldems Oct 2014 #8

We all have to make a living LordGlenconner Oct 2014 #43

Hillary Rodham Romney MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #9

When she's the Nominee..... Mister Nightowl Oct 2014 #12

Because those are the only TBF Oct 2014 #13

That may be what it comes down to LordGlenconner Oct 2014 #42

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #45

Let's just give her the nomination now and spare us the trouble.... AngryOldDem Oct 2014 #16

"this early in the process" Mister Nightowl Oct 2014 #19

Give Hillary the Nomination and the Republican will win Youdontwantthetruth Oct 2014 #24

Owww, that post made my brain sad. nt Javaman Oct 2014 #20

they WOULD there is NO doubt in my mind.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #27

I read your post Capt. Obvious Oct 2014 #29

Clumsy LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #51

I'll stop the bashing JEB Oct 2014 #58

Bashing Obama has always been accepted here. The most vile insults stand. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #60

I don't need a job anyway, I need income, I need money. bemildred Oct 2014 #15

Anyone but a Republican or Clinton or O'Malley or Cuomo or Biden. Vattel Oct 2014 #18

Ha! Pretty much. bigwillq Oct 2014 #23

As long as the substitute is not a long time anti gay Reagan death policy supporter.... Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #22

such a habit--she could be a nun dembotoz Oct 2014 #25

What was up with that delivery? YarnAddict Oct 2014 #26

I am going to be as blunt as can be dsc Oct 2014 #28

That is called projection. Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #32

and your post is called dishonesty dsc Oct 2014 #39

No, that is called you injecting something I never claimed. Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #48

`bzzzt. fail. I'll be blunter. Wrongo, dear. cali Oct 2014 #34

If Warrren or Sanders said it LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #61

Hillary is afraid of Republicans, always has been. Terrified down to her core. True Blue Door Oct 2014 #30

That is so true. earthside Oct 2014 #33

That trained-dog dynamic is a bad habit learned well. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #40

If businesses don't create jobs, why are our local governments inducing them with Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #31

The inducements therefore aren't entirely for job creation... Orsino Oct 2014 #35

Exactly. Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #36

One person's backpedaling is another person's pragmatic tactical priority re-adjustment Fumesucker Oct 2014 #38

She misspoke. It's just not that big of a deal. nt stevenleser Oct 2014 #41

The gaffe was "businesses don't create jobs" Ykcutnek Oct 2014 #44

Market demand creates jobs. Maedhros Oct 2014 #50

Yes, this is true. Ykcutnek Oct 2014 #53

The objection to the "businesses creates jobs" rhetoric Maedhros Oct 2014 #55

How would you explain the popularity of the Pet Rock, for ex. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #62

Its never today's bad Hillary moment that's the issue:Its her trust record. lindysalsagal Oct 2014 #46

lol, that presidential stuff is not easy. okieinpain Oct 2014 #47

She backpedals so much hifiguy Oct 2014 #54

That first picture Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #56

She's right, demand creates jobs, not corps. Darb Oct 2014 #57

Hillary has become adept at CYA. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2014 #59

It's hilarious at this point. woo me with science Oct 2014 #64

K&R woo me with science Oct 2014 #63

kick woo me with science Oct 2014 #66

HRC was backed by Lynn Forester de Rothschild in 2008 (learned today) 2banon Oct 2014 #67