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merrily

(45,251 posts)
7. I would not be so quick or so generous as to hand out lofty-sounding excuses pre-emptively.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:15 AM
Nov 2014

They will look at the results at this is what the American people want and allow the Republican agenda to move forward.


Funny, when Dems win elections, they don't seem to look quite as closely at what voters "wanted." Then, we just got a lot of posts about how Democrats don't represent just Democrats, but all Americans (Duh? So do Republicans, but elections are SUPPOSED to have consequences. That's probably why we have them. Republicans sure do get that when they win.)

Democrats know what goes into how people vote: billions of dollars worth of TV ads. Messaging skills that the allegedly dumb Republicans seem to nail while the allegedly smart Democrats never seem to match that skill. Corporate media. Discouragement with the status quo translating to a change election. Low info voters. And on and on. They know better than any of us that the results of an election do not equal necessarily equal what Americans want for their lives.

Not buying any cop outs. "Along Came Jones," an old Western that On Demand featured a while back, taught me something: You can assume all day long why people act they way that they do. However, that is speculation. Very often, you can really tell what someone actually aimed at simply by observing which target they hit.


BINGO! B Calm Nov 2014 #1
I agree JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #2
Yep newfie11 Nov 2014 #3
It's going to be a horrible, horrible two years...... a kennedy Nov 2014 #4
It's going to be worse when a Repub president is elected. I don't know where to move. nt valerief Nov 2014 #23
Not going to happen.... daleanime Nov 2014 #41
Because? After all, it's happened before, all too often. nt valerief Nov 2014 #42
It is of course just my opinion..... daleanime Nov 2014 #47
I don't understand. They do shit and get elected anyway. nt valerief Nov 2014 #49
You don't understand... daleanime Nov 2014 #50
I don't understand why you think that. valerief Nov 2014 #58
I'm thinking Saskatoon!!! n/t ewagner Nov 2014 #25
No, it's not. It's going to remain about the same. cleanhippie Nov 2014 #43
"They will...allow the Republican agenda to move forward." BumRushDaShow Nov 2014 #5
Do you REALLY believe that Obama will veto? Bohunk68 Nov 2014 #8
Keep trying BumRushDaShow Nov 2014 #29
What about the looming TPP ??? Plucketeer Nov 2014 #44
It looms like BumRushDaShow Nov 2014 #56
Well, personally I think the TPP is a decent idea Recursion Nov 2014 #68
In almost 6 years he has used the veto pen a total Bohunk68 Nov 2014 #59
Think about what you just wrote BumRushDaShow Nov 2014 #60
You have no examples to show for your assertion. Bohunk68 Nov 2014 #61
Try this BumRushDaShow Nov 2014 #69
Yeah... when Congress doesn't pass anything vetos are rare (nt) Recursion Nov 2014 #67
This Congress could eat a hill of beans, and they still wouldn't be able to pass a healthy fart!! Major Hogwash Nov 2014 #70
yup PFunk Nov 2014 #6
Already happened AtlasProg Nov 2014 #34
Who's our Koch Brothers? Who will buy the media for the deprogramming? No one. nt valerief Nov 2014 #46
I would not be so quick or so generous as to hand out lofty-sounding excuses pre-emptively. merrily Nov 2014 #7
so they need 60 votes to end a filibuster by Warren, Franken, Sanders, etc? zazen Nov 2014 #9
Well , maybe not the Dem's, but Bernie might Filibuster bahrbearian Nov 2014 #10
Both parties are the same so it doesn't really matter. JoePhilly Nov 2014 #11
When the f*ck will Dems learn they cannot succeed as "GOP Lite?" Vinca Nov 2014 #12
When they're no longer paid to do so. Barack_America Nov 2014 #17
Sadly true. nt Nay Nov 2014 #20
Beat them with facts Pantagruelsmember Nov 2014 #45
cons will eliminate the filibuster belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #13
Reid eliminated the filibuster a year ago (EDIT: I was wrong) Recursion Nov 2014 #15
only on judicial nominations other than scotus picks belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #16
You think McConnell will care? Recursion Nov 2014 #21
no i think he'll end the filibuster like i said to which you said belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #24
Reid did not end the filibuster Bandit Nov 2014 #55
The Democrats filibustered pretty well from 2002-2006 Recursion Nov 2014 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author pa28 Nov 2014 #62
Thank you. I completely remembered that wrong Recursion Nov 2014 #64
Saw somebody had pointed that out and deleted. pa28 Nov 2014 #65
Totally fair. I misremembered the scope of the ruling Recursion Nov 2014 #66
Alzheimers for all ... GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #14
And I believe in the power of the veto pen Liberalynn Nov 2014 #18
Oh, I agree. Why would they stop rolling over for the Pubs now? nt Nay Nov 2014 #19
Wow Lippythelion69 Nov 2014 #22
Don't forget, in the next election cycle... Bettie Nov 2014 #26
I suspect you're wrong.. just took google.. Cha Nov 2014 #30
I hope I'm wrong Bettie Nov 2014 #31
I'm so sorry.. I've been feeling really bad for all the Cha Nov 2014 #33
Thanks Bettie Nov 2014 #35
.. Cha Nov 2014 #39
Well, no, the next election cycle is Presidential with 23 GOP Senate seats up Recursion Nov 2014 #40
Too often they remind me of this old Mr Fish toon... spedtr90 Nov 2014 #27
Reid has already promised to cooperate and submit to Republicans' willpower. TRoN33 Nov 2014 #28
I think I'd prefer if they didn't filibuster. sybylla Nov 2014 #32
I agree. Nothing is going to change until Hotler Nov 2014 #38
That happened in 2003 and yet we are still occupying Iraq. arcane1 Nov 2014 #53
exactly librechik Nov 2014 #36
well yeah, I suppose so Douglas Carpenter Nov 2014 #37
My 18 y.o. son dotymed Nov 2014 #48
Occasionally.. kentuck Nov 2014 #51
No. But, we can expect a lot of excuses why they didn't/don't. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #52
They'd have to find a spine for that. Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #54
The caving-in-earnest really began under Reagan... villager Nov 2014 #57
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